Republican Fitzgerald Says He Won't Oppose Gay Marriage at Oswego Forum
Shorewood trustee differentiates himself from conservative field.
Candidates in the Republican race for the 49th State Senate District discussed everything from tax reform to Illinois' civil union law at a forum sponsored by the Oswego Toastmasters on Tuesday night at the Little White School Museum.
The candiates are Shorewood village trustee Gary Fitzgerald, Oswego village trustee Tony Giles, Plainfield trustee Garrett Peck and Will County board member Brian Smith. Due to illness, Peck could not attend the forum. Spokesman Mark Batinick filled in for Peck.
Few differences emerged among the candidates on the state's biggest problems, including the budget deficit and the state's comparatively high unemployment rate. However, Fitzgerald did come out in support of civil unions and gay marriage, saying the government should not be involved in such private matters. His opponents all said they did not support the state's civil union law.
"Civil unions are the law of the land and I don't oppose it," Fitzgerald said. "I also don't oppose gay marriage. I don't think it's any business of the government's to meddle in these affairs."
Another highlight of the evening came when Giles took a swipe at Peck, who he sees as his chief rival in the race. Giles asked why Peck wasn't at the forum and repeatedly took shots at Peck's endorcement from former judge and State Senator Ed Petka, who Giles said is collecting one of the largest government pensions in the state. Records show that Petka collects an annual pension of about $182,000.
The newly drawn 49th State Senate District encompasses portions of Oswego, Montgomery, Plainfield, Romeoville and Shorewood.
Voters head to the primary polls in Illinois on Tuesday, March 20.
Click the videos attached to this article to hear what the candidates have to say on the following questions:
- What specific and new ideas do you have to spur economic development locally and in the state of Illinois?
- Should pension reform in the state of Illinois include public safety employees?
- What incentives, if any, do you support to keep some of the state's largest employers (like Caterpillar) from leaving the state?
Editor's note: Oswego Patch editor Steven Jack was a moderator of this forum.
mike ellison
8:51 am on Thursday, March 1, 2012
How ironic. He says that gov't shouldn't be involved in such affairs, yet votes for a law that creates civil unions and creates additional expenses for taxpayers based upon this preferred status that he voted in.
Annie H.
1:02 pm on Thursday, March 1, 2012
Mike, just curious, what additional expenses were put on taxpayers from the civil unions law? And what do you mean by "preferred status?"
Trenton
1:35 pm on Thursday, March 1, 2012
@ Mike: I feel that Fitzgerald is highly focused on the taxpayers' interests and that voting for marriage equality can only be good for the Illinois economy in the long run. Less people are getting married today compared with the past, and this means fewer revenues for a variety of businesses dependent (wholly or partially) on this industry. A vote for gay marriage is a vote for the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution and a brighter economic future.
Chris
10:46 am on Thursday, March 1, 2012
See Peck signs everywhere, but never hear from the guy. All I read about him seems to be on the "shady" side. I wonder if he will publicly address some concerns?
Carol Anaski-Figurski
1:44 pm on Thursday, March 1, 2012
I am not gay but I have worked with many. People are people and I am suprised that in 2012 we are still stigmatizing. Caterpillar would be a big lose for this community especialy they left this state, I think they employ nearly 11 % of local jobs with senior employees w/ 30 yrs service. What builds a community when all the industrial type jobs leave?
mike ellison
9:03 am on Friday, March 2, 2012
The expenses come about as laws are creating giving civil union partners benefits. Pretty interesting that an umarried male and female in a long term relationship can't get those same benefits. But hey, Joe and Mike can.
What does the 1st amendment have to do with this? Nowhere in the constitution does it grant rights based upon someone's sexual preferences. If it did, then you'd have to give the same rights to any person with unusual sexual preferences. If anything goes, then why night pedofiles? You can't logically tell me why they don't get the same benefits based upon their sexual preference. If you're going to throw morality out the window then you can't be choosy.
We've gotten long past the time when gays just wanted to be left alone to do their own thing. I couldn't care less about that. But it's gone from that to actually having them demand rights and to force their lifestyle onto others by having other pay for their benefits.
Karl Knoernschild
9:48 am on Friday, March 2, 2012
Mike, you should read the 14th amendment sometime. Section 1 in particular.
After you finish, come back here and complain to everyone how you don't believe it applies in this case.
Trenton
9:50 am on Friday, March 2, 2012
Your "slippery slope" comment relating same-sex relationships between two consenting adults with pedophilia speaks so loudly for itself that I almost hesitate to comment further. You're correct that the 1st amendment does not explicitly grant rights based upon sexual preference, however, it does protect against legislating preference of religious beliefs. You drove this point home when you suggested that we would "throw morality out of the window" by granting equal marriage rights. This may be difficult for many of us to sometimes accept, but not everybody holds the same religious beliefs. Your argument against same-sex marriage is a slap in the face to the constitution as the government should not be in the business of legislating any particular group's religious morality. If two consenting adults (hetero- or homosexual) want to marry, then they should have every right to do so based on the laws of this great nation.
Additionally, the "expenses" denied to committed unmarried couples is certainly of concern to those who feel marriage is something the government is coercing people into through special treatments. This, however, is a loosely-related discussion for another time and place. As it stands now, if those unmarried couples (hetero- or homosexual) desire benefits strongly enough, then it is certainly in their interest to marry. This isn't an issue of special preference based on sexuality, but a preference of marriage over another form of commitment.
Chris Spero
11:04 am on Friday, March 2, 2012
This is all fluff. Just like in every other election cycle since the beginning of time, politicians, activists, and the media "create" issues out of non-issues in order to muddy the water about the REAL concerns of the citizenry.
Most American's regardless of race, color, creed, religion, sexual orientation, or anything else are concerned, number one, about the ECONOMY.
We need intelligent answers to fixing the spending addiction which plagues every level of government from Congress down to local library boards.
We need serious cuts in the size and reach of the federal government.
We need serious, not pie-in-the-sky ideas, about energy policy.
We need to get gas prices wayyyy down from where they are now. If that means expanding domestic drilling, then do it. If it means building more refineries, then do it.
Tina Conley
3:54 pm on Friday, March 2, 2012
Well said Chris! I'd like to add that the word "transparency" is more than a word, besides it's getting old. Let's start with being honest and go from there.
ayar
12:14 pm on Wednesday, March 14, 2012
Chris, with "cuts" read "create job layoffs", which further brings down the economy as laid off people don't spend as much. With oil refineries, we have plenty of them, a bunch have been shut down to "drive up price" - google it. You'll be surprised. There isn't a lot at the *State* level to be done to create jobs, but at the Federal level, a *lot* can be done. Tax offshoring to give American workers a shot at the jobs that are getting shoved overseas by the boatload [s.3816], making the price about the same. If it's a choice between an American worker and an overseas one at the same price, I for one believe in the American worker and believe we will win every time, don't you? Energy policy ? why are we still burning Dinosaur carcasses in our gas tanks ? can't we do better ? we have electric hybrids - can we give companies tax incentives to lower the cost of those cars ? can we have regulations set up that those new cars that are produced not only burn gasoline, but also diesel *and* corn ethanol ? that gives the average Joe a *choice* of what to buy to fill their tank up, Marketing at work. Who loses ? nobody. It's a win-win. Domestic drilling: only if there are regulations to make the companies *sell to the U.S. only*. Alaska and some of the other American oil is sometimes being *exported* to other countries. why?
Brian
8:13 pm on Friday, March 2, 2012
Jesus, Gay marriage - Who cares. It's not really my concern, yours, or our governments who is married happily. I'm constantly amazed at how those who are all for 'smaller government' want government dictating who can and can't be married. . Guess it's smaller government as long as you agree with me!
And Chris Spero nailed it. I don't think it matters which side you label yourself as, just about every point he highlighted is something we can all agree on. We need politicians who work for the voters instead of their special interest groups and lobbyists.
Chris Spero
10:58 pm on Wednesday, March 14, 2012
ayar- With cuts, that's exactly what I mean. We have a gross excess of public employees, especially at the federal level. We have multiple agencies duplicating the same work, and gross malfeasance on all levels. We definitely need to make major cuts.
I actually DO understand the oil commodity market. Increasing American oil production can help to drive down the prices, especially when turmoil in the Middle East is driving them up. As far as refineries, new, modern ones will serve us better than old, outdated ones. They would be safer, and more efficient.
As far as burning gasoline, it's still the best and most economical fuel currently available. No amount of pie-in-the-sky legislation will make someone come up with a car that burns magic fairy dust. Corn ethanol is a joke. It is far less efficient than gasoline, and takes an enormous amount of energy to produce. In fact, rather than being an "environmentally friendly" alternative to gasoline, it's actually rather unfriendly to the environment. Further, if it weren't for the fact that Americans are heavily subsidizing it, it would cost substantially more at the pump. The only people who are well served by ethanol are the corn producers. Meanwhile, the price of corn (also a commodity), has skyrocketed, which has driven up the cost of food, including meat, since livestock is fed with corn.
If there ever IS a reliable alternative to gasoline, I'm all for letting some entrepreneur develop it and bring it to market.
ayar
11:27 am on Thursday, March 15, 2012
Chris, which departments have a gross excess of employees at the Federal level? my problem on this is that I'm just not fond of the thought of cutting jobs during a deep economic recession where the market is unstable to begin with. IDES is overloaded as it is. Senate bill 3816 [s.3816] would add jobs, which is the big first step. But back to the oil commodity market : shipping american oil overseas when we have a "shortage" of oil here, how do we stop that ? and the refineries - new ones might be more efficient, but shutting down the old ones to drive up price in this market setting [$4 + a gallon] is just plain wrong. Bringing down price - maybe subsidize refineries to keep them open? Alternatives ? me, I'm rooting for the ENV research- hydrogen fuel cell technology - pulled from water itself. cheap and plentiful. No corn needed.