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Teen Shot by Sheriff’s Deputy Dies

Jose Chavez, 17, died Friday afternoon at Provena St. Joseph Medical Center. He was shot Dec. 20 after police said he slashed the face of a Will County deputy.

 

A teenager shot last week by a Will County Sheriff’s deputy died of his injuries on Friday, according to the Will County Coroner’s office.

Jose Chavez Sanchez, 17, was pronounced dead at 3:29 p.m. Friday at Provena St. Joseph hospital in Joliet, according to the coroner.

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The teen, identified by police as Jose Chavez, was shot Dec. 20 after he slashed the face of a Will County Sheriff’s deputy who was responding to a reported domestic dispute at his home in the 2300 block of Gaylord Road, according to the sheriff's department. The home is located near the intersection of Plainfield and Caton Farm roads.

READ – POLICE: SHERIFF’S DEPUTY SLASHED WITH KNIFE; SHOOTS ATTACKER

Police said deputies arrived at the home around 7:25 p.m. after relatives reported that Chavez was acting erratically and threatening family members with a knife.

According to police, a relative let two deputies into the home, where they encountered the teen standing in a hallway armed with a knife. Chavez refused repeated orders to drop the knife, police said, and “subsequently rushed the two deputies and attacked one of the deputies with a knife.”

The female deputy, who sustained a deep laceration to her face, shot Chavez once in the chest, police said.

After he was shot, Chavez ran from the residence, but was apprehended in the driveway by two Crest Hill police officers, according to the sheriff’s department.

Both Chavez and the deputy were taken to Provena St. Joseph Medical Center, where they underwent surgery.

While police said the deputy is expected to make a full recovery, Chavez was reportedly on life support following the shooting.

Deputy Chief Ken Kaupas said sheriff’s deputies had contact with Chavez prior to the Dec. 20 incident, and added the attack “may have been fueled by [the teen’s] use of drugs earlier in the evening.”

Delgado Funeral Home in Joliet is handling funeral arrangements for the teen, according to the coroner’s office.

The sheriff’s department is investigating the incident, and an autopsy is scheduled for Saturday, Dec. 29.

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Frank

7:49 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012

1) When police say "freeze"....FREEZE. 2) Don't slash the face of a policeman and you won't get shot. Very simple rules to live by. My parents always taught me to respect and honor the authorities. "They put their life on the line every day to protect you" is how I was raised. If you have no respect, you'll be shown no respect.....and rightfully so.

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concern citizen

11:13 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012

you obviously didn't know who he was, he made a mistake and his life was taken for it. you don't know the situation so please don't leave your ignorant remarks on here. thank you.

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Carrie A.

9:03 am on Saturday, December 29, 2012

I could not agree more. What exactly was the officer supposed to do??? Stand there and get stabbed to death?

Brandon

7:49 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012

Today is a sad day. My heart goes out to his family and friends as they suffer the loss of their son. I hope you can find some peace in this terrible tragedy.

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InvisibleCop1

7:33 pm on Sunday, December 30, 2012

And I hope the officer that has to be reminded of the incident every time she looks in the mirror makes a full recovery too. My heart goes out to her family too! Now they will worry ten fold every time she steps out the door to go to work.

Rev

8:45 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012

The tragedy is that an officer was injured. Yes, we can feel sad for the family of the young criminal, but dead offenders are not repeat offenders.

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Debbie Zolnierowicz

10:56 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012

I don't know what I bother to read these comments on the patch. So much insensitive hatred. I pray for the officer who must live with this tragedy, and for the family who called the police to their home. This is a sad, heartbreaking situation. He was still someone's child. None of you know the circumstances of this death, and while he is to blame for his actions, there is no excuse for being an insensitive jackass. God bless the officers and family who lived through this.

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Laura Mesich

10:56 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012

All of you stop please. He is dead and it is tragic. First they said he "lunged" now he ran towards them. there are two sides to every story. I hope all the people that judge him have something tragic like this happen to them and see how it feels. You good two shoes, think your better than everyone and you never do anything wrong. I know plenty of people who have had their kids do bad things and they were fine parents. The kid was on something AKA HE WAS NOT IN HIS RIGHT MIND. I know him and he was never ever ever violent or out of control. Really you think he was just sitting there watching tv, see a cop and runs at them with a knife. Ok, really. I dont care I dont think they should have shot him in the chest no reason BAD POLICE WORK FOR SURE.TERRIABLE AND I HOPE THEY HAVE TO LIVE WITH THIS THE REST OF THEIR LIFE WHAT THEY DID TO HIM.

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Joel Craig

12:20 am on Saturday, December 29, 2012

Laura, it's obvious you know the young man involved here, and I'm sorry for your loss, but please enlighten us. What is a police officer to do when an individual attacks them with a deadly weapon? Oh, and you only have a split-second to decide or it could cost you, your partner and others their lives.

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Nicholas Ifkovits

12:58 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012

Actually, there are THREE sides to every story; yours, mine, and the truth.
-- Ann Landers

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Ildteacher

2:09 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012

Laura, it is sad, that this kid is dead. Police don't shoot in the leg or in the shoulder. They are trained to shoot to protect their life and others around them. They shoot individuals in the leg in the movies, if the officer feels threatened they are justified in shooting to protect the self. They have families to go home to as well.

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Tony B

1:53 am on Sunday, December 30, 2012

Laura, Let me just say this, it is a tragedy for the Deputy and her family as well as the family of the offender. That being said, BAD POLICE WORK? really, were you there? Are you a police officer? So how can you judge any of them or the incident. They put there life on the line everyday for people like you and your offender friend. I just hope next time you need a police officer you tell them that you thinks its ok to stab and try to kill a police officers....... Bottom line is death is a tragedy, but if you try to harm or kill someone then your time should come to an end.

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Use common sense

4:03 pm on Sunday, December 30, 2012

Laura, this is a incredibly uneducated opinion. The officer was slashed just inches from her jugular. And then we would have two dead people, one completely innocent and dedicated to protecting others. The only mistake she made was not pulling the trigger sooner. It's unfortunate your friend died and he may not have been in his right mind but officers can't afford to debate this on their mind with the fractions of a second they have to react. Also, this was not a taser situation, if she even had one. He had a deadly weapon. The officers need to respond with deadly weapons also. So, like I said, I'm sorry for you're loss and I hope that people close to him or anybody following this story can learn a lesson and think twice before they let themselves get this far out of control. Lets also hope that the officer has a speedy recovery and doesn't have any life lasting scars, physically or mentally.

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InvisibleCop1

7:33 pm on Sunday, December 30, 2012

Laura, he wasn't just sitting there watching TV. He was acting so out of control that his own family called the police on him! They responded and did an excellent job, get over it.

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plainfield_4life

10:54 pm on Sunday, December 30, 2012

Right...bad police work for someone coming after a cop with a KNIFE!! Really!?!? Are you serious right now?!?! Clearly you DIDNT know that much about him if his only family felt the need to call the cops in to help control him. Yes its sad he died, and I hope his family can start the healing process. However, had he lived, he would have been in jail for a very very very long time. The cop did not shoot for "no reason" he didn't listen to a police officer and had a weapon....the police officer had to protect herself.

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E. Ruettiger

10:59 am on Monday, December 31, 2012

Laura
He had already been arrested NUMEROUS times for the same/similar incident(s)! The problem is the reason the general pubkic does not know about it, is because he was considered a "juvenil". Those records are kept sealed and private. That same day much earlier, he had also held that same knife to the throat of a 6 year old child and threatened to kill the child. Prior to being shot he was tazored, however, he was so high on drugs it did not even bother him. After repeated warnings to drop the knife, and a GREAT deal of distance/separation between him and the officer, he then charges the Officer and not only did he merely cut her, he laid open her ENTIRE face from the top of her forehead down to her chin. The Officers' entire nose was broken and her nostrils exposed. that was when she finally shot him. the Officer will require extensive reconstructive/plastic surgery.
I went through ALL of this same ridicule from people just like you when I was shot back in 1988........Yes I am an Officer! IL. State Police! I shot an assailant who had kidnapped a woman shot her to death and then attempted to finish me off. I shot him, but he also got me 3 times with a sub machine gun. He is dead now and I am not! This is the problem with Police work. Like a previous comment told you, don't call us if you don't want us to do our job!

Funny

11:17 pm on Friday, December 28, 2012

At least he didn't come home and find 7 teens hiding in the bathroom.

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JustAnOpinion

12:20 am on Saturday, December 29, 2012

While I believe this is a tragedy for ALL involved, at what point is it appropriate for the officer to defend herself? Slashing her face isn't enough? Should she have waited until the knife was in her neck? You can bet that the entire incident took only seconds and at the very moment of the attack, years of police training and instinct would have kicked in. While I am certain the family is devastated, I am sure the officer is sharing many of those same feelings.

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S Dian

3:38 am on Saturday, December 29, 2012

The officers were called to the scene because the teen was threatening his own family members with a knife. He was warned, he did not listen, he lunged with a deadly weapon. The officer had to protect herself. Heartfelt condolences to everyone involved, but I am so fed up with people not expected to be held accountable for their actions. The police were involved with him before. I did not see anyone blaming the parents. Even the most incredible parents have children who fall off the straight road, we certainly would not blame them. Nothing will come of people making snide comments on here. Pray for everyone involved, hope some lessons were learned. Everyone touched by this has been forever affected negatively.

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Truth Hurts

3:38 am on Saturday, December 29, 2012

Really bad police work for defending the officers life??? Come on are you serious? I heard the Officer received treatment for approx 40 stiches to the face. I cant beleive the offender was not shot more tham one time.......I call this great police work. Lets be serious, Police work is unlike anything else out there and its not always Roses

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P

9:03 am on Saturday, December 29, 2012

I am a Parent and when I say STOP!!! That's exactly what I mean. Slash my face. Lets just say at least She was licensed to shoot. These KIDS are OUT OF CONTROL. He was being ignorant and the officer was doing her JOB! If it were my child right is right and wrong is wrong. Police don't show up as Social Workers they are BUSY!

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John Roberts

9:03 am on Saturday, December 29, 2012

Weather a police officer or not the guy came at the human being with a knife and the human being had something to defend herself with...I know a man who was standing in his own yard here in Ridgewood and some guy walked right up and stabbed the guy in the chest he died in the door way trying to tell everyone he was stabbed..The guy that stabbed him just got into it with his ole lady he is now in prison but he walked down the stree.my friend was playing in the yard keeping an eye on the kids guy walked up and got him right in the heart...So yeah I am in all favor if you come at someone with a knife.....you get shot,buried and the world moves on...

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Stay strong

9:03 am on Saturday, December 29, 2012

I am a near by neighbor and have to drive past this home and it is sad to see the scence. My heart is with all involved and my condolences goes out to the mother whom lost a child rather good or bad a piece of her heart is gone forever.

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Kim

9:03 am on Saturday, December 29, 2012

My deepest sympathy to both familes. This was a tragic situation. Unfortuntely the family called the police to assist with a situation and now a young man is dead. Question - why did the office not shot to disarm the young man by shooting him in the arm or leg versus the chest (which in my opinion is shooting to kill)?

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Stephane Carlson

12:58 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012

Like the military, police are trained to shoot center mass. The intent should be to stop the suspect’s threatening behavior as fast as possible. Shooting instead for a smaller, faster-moving arm or a leg with the intent to wound invites a myriad of tactical dilemmas.

Contrary to popular belief, police officers endure extensive training, especially when it comes to the need to discharge their weapon.

Now, I'm not saying that what happened here was not tragic. I feel bad for all parties involved.

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Rev

12:58 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012

You have SECONDS, you shoot for center mass, the chest.

Tony

9:03 am on Saturday, December 29, 2012

The story mentioned the possible use of drugs as being a factor and I think drugs played a role in what happened.I don't live in Cresthill but my home borders the area and I know a lot of drugs are sold there.These chemical drugs that kids are smoking nowadays cause them to do some very crazy things and these drugs are not hard to find and are cheap.Until Will County makes an honest effort to get these drugs off the streets more and more young kids are going to find themselves with guns pointed at them because they went crazy and tried to hurt someone.

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John Roberts

9:35 am on Saturday, December 29, 2012

That's the problem How?raiding people,shooting people,sending them to prison,rehab,knocking down buildings,..none of it has worked...The reality of it is for the past 40 years the War on Drugs has cost about 2 trillion a year and 40 years ago 1/3 of the nation was on drugs 20 years after the start of the WoD 1/3 of the nation was on drugs and today 1/3 of the nation is on drugs...Reality is drugs will always be here.the human instinct will always seek out something that makes them feel different,curiosity will always play a part in humans,..the more we are aggressive towards the natural substances that are naturallly in the world the more people will continue to seek out chemicals because that is the new age we are in...we live in a chemical age,and as time goes by we create more chemicals,look what we have today compared to 1950,everyday a new cleaner,chemical comes out...but everyday the war on drugs continues,the synthetic marijuana,GHB,bath salts,paint,gas,X,..all start to get used more...I have a cousin that said $10 worth of bath salts is equal to $1000 worth of crack,said he stayed up for 8 days straight.....sure glad he lives in Michigan lol..education is known to be best,restriction only makes other bad things to come about,goes further underground so you do not know what your dealing with,murder,cover ups,creation of new drugs,gangs profit more....like I always said if you banned guns they they will be the hottest item on the black market....just like drugs..

The Truth Hurts

9:25 am on Saturday, December 29, 2012

My heart goes out to Pepes family and to the officer who will have to live with very real scars forever. I did know Pepe and he was a great kid. He also made a lot of mistakes and when you choose to do drugs you have to choose to live or die with some very real consequences. I hope his so called friends that helped shape the past two years of his life with drugs wake up and get help. I wish Pepe would have gotten help instead of choosing to mess with drugs. Lets face it we can debate an officers actions in hindsight forever but in that moment im sure she did what she thought was right to defend herself and I probably would have done the same thing. Im sure his parents have a thousand what ifs in their minds concerning that night. The truth is the only what if that could have truly stopped all of this is if Pepe would have made the choice not to do drugs.

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Lee

9:38 am on Saturday, December 29, 2012

My condolence to the family, we're going to miss him dearly. He was a teen, and somebodies baby so please have some Respect. As far as the police they can TASER the boy NOT SHOT him. He was on drugs, taser would have been the right thing.

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Chris

9:52 am on Saturday, December 29, 2012

So if your the peace officer, and someone tripping on acid comes at you for your life, you wouldn't do whatever humanly possible to survive? With these circumstances, it was either kill or be killed.

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VickiO

12:58 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012

You don't tase someone who has already slashed an officer. Blood was drawn, the intent to harm/kill was made abundantly clear against the officers. If you threaten, you get tasered. If you spill blood, you get shot.

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Stephane Carlson

12:58 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012

Not all police officers carry a taser. Meanwhile, I think the situation was beyond the point of using less-than-lethal means of subduing the teen. Being slashed in the face is not just a threat of harm...it IS deadly harm. There are so many circumstances that we readers are unaware of that none of us can put ourselves in the deputy's position and say, "Well, I'd have done this..." because we don't have the proper training. The incident will be investigated to determine whether the deputy's use of deadly force was justified or not.

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Kevin S

1:53 am on Sunday, December 30, 2012

Ridiculous. A knife wielding slasher, takes out a police officer's face? I get that you knew him, but that is an INSTANT kill shot situation, no question.

Laura Mesich

12:58 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012

He was on out of his mind on something so HMMMM . . . lets appoach him and get close enought so he can stab me. Did the partner shoot him? NO. The family was still in the house. Why didn't they get them out first, approach the suspect with extream caution. Obviously something went way wrong way fast. I think the officer got scared and knee jerk respons was to pull the trigger. I just wish she would have aimed for his foot or hand or someplace other than his chest. None of us where there so we cant speak to what exactly happened. The reality is that the investigation will reveal what happened and what could have been done. I love all the "arm chair" Police investigators that have everything figured out. NO Pepe was not a criminal. he was not a gang banger he was a kid on something. He was in school, getting passing grades, he had friends, he had a life. He wasn't walking around with guns and knifes out to kill people. He was a very young kid who did something that made him lose his mind. Again, since some of you know so much about poice procedure. What is the procedure for approaching a suspect with a knife who is high on something? IDK I am a simple person and am not up on the latest police procedures, but I do have a bit of common sense and can reason that something could have been done better. I am so sick of the know it all and judgmental attitudes. Just wait something some day is going to happen to you or your family and you may understand at that point.

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Mom of 5

10:18 pm on Sunday, December 30, 2012

I work in a maximum security department of corrections where the threat of being stabbed is creeping in every corner you turn....ask any correctional officer, officers who are not even allowed to carry a weapon, what their training involves. Brute force and power in numbers whenever it comes to an out of control inmate with a sharp weapon.....the officer likely did have a knee jerk reaction, which shows just how much even a professional can be overcome by the flight or fight instinct when it comes to crisis. My question is: Where there only 2 officers on the scene? if so, that is an incredibly poor resonse to an "out of control, armed with a deadly weapon, on drugs "criminal".....a suburban traffic stop gets more officers than that with usually at least 2 patrols.

VickiO

12:58 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012

Well, sounds to me like the punk got what he deserved. You DON'T come at a sheriff's deputy slashing with a knife. You WILL get shot. Nobody cares what kind of day the jerk had that brought him to that state. Calm the hell down, put the damn knife down and obey the officers. I hope the sheriff's deputy recovers fully and has a long and fulfilling career.

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Faith Mauritz

12:58 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012

This is very tragic for all involved. The boys' family, that goes without saying..the officer, her family..friends , loved ones on both sides. This is not how God intended for this to end or even happen. I hope in my heart that Jose knew God..had a relationship with him even in the midst of his pain and apparent drug issues. Unfortunately this all boils down to consequences the choices that were made even though it was a mistake. Even though in my mind everyone deserves a second chance. However just because I believe that everyone makes mistakes and deserves a second chance doesn't protect them from the consequences of their ch mistake. It's an honor and a priviledge to be given a second chance in life...not a requirement. Yes he made a bad choice and should be given another chance but that doesn't take away the fact or the details of that one bad choice. We are not entitled to a do over. We are responsible for our actions and must suffer the consequences. That's harsh and sad I know but it's life. in today's world we are always trying to fine a way out or a way around consequences. A quick fix for mistakes . Sometimes there are ways out..but sometimes life hits us with reality. I know this doesn't make it any easier for the parties involved to get through their grief but if anything positive can come out of this at least for me..who is removed from the situation...I will use it as a lesson to teach my children the truth about drugs , choices and consequences.

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God Bless

12:58 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012

I am embarrassed to live by any of you negative people. Always taking the news and reposting mean things. Both these families need to be prayed for. This is what is wrong with our society, the devil overtaking your thoughts. Control yourselves and have respect for these families. U would like to apologize to both families and may God be in your hearts during these hard times.

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Kevin S

1:53 am on Sunday, December 30, 2012

Religion strikes again! Which god? Yours or the other one(s)? Who's imaginary friend is the real one? The one to save the plane crash, or the school kids being killed, or the drug crazed teen who slashes a cop in the face? Religion is such a farce, it's almost comical to watch the lemmings, if they weren't so ready to kill others themselves.

lala

12:58 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012

Sorry to hear the boy died. Maybe these kids will learn that doing illegal drugs has a price. You start out smoking pot because you think it makes you look cool. Cool rhymes with fool. You then move on to other illegal drugs. Drugs that you kids don't understand. You think you do but they effect everyone differently. Two families are torn by this tragedy. The deputy has to live with this the rest of her life. She was doing her job. What did you people expect her to do? Let him kill her? @Laura - you lost a friend but explain how the deputy was to know "The kid was on something AKA HE WAS NOT IN HIS RIGHT MIND." She was doing her JOB. Let's not blame her for his decision to do drugs. If you have other friends doing drugs, hopefully they will learn from this tragedy and get some help.

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Laura Mesich

9:17 am on Sunday, December 30, 2012

I know that the officer knew because the parents called them to their house because their son had a knife and they needed assistance. I think that would qualify for her know what she was walking in to and lets not forget. We weren't there. For example we dont know when she shot him. If she had her gun drawn and he lunged at her. He is for example in our good old USA "innocent until proven guilty" None of us know what happened and the police are doing an investigation into the incident.

I hate ignorant people

12:58 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012

Like I said before it is a tragedy for all involved !!! To young to die if it were my child It would kill me and if it were my childs friend which he was it would kill them !!! Its just a sad sad day for Pepe and his family!! None of us were there so we really do not know what happen and probably never will ! REST IN PEACE PEPE YOU WILL BE MISSED!!!

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jono100

12:58 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012

About time one of the good guys/gals win for a change instead of the dirt bag.

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jono100

12:58 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012

Lee the bad guy should have used a butter knife instead of a steak knife..you idiot

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Tough Job

1:27 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012

After 30 years as a Firefighter/Paramedic, I've repeatedly seen how drugs can change a calm, collected, rational person into an absolute lunatic. I've been met at front doors with baseball bats, shotguns, pistols, fists, attack dogs, and much more. In my profession, all I had for defense was my fists or my legs.
When it comes to drugs, the effect they have on a person is irrelevant to their age. They (drugs) can and do change a person and their thought process.
I salute out law enforcement officers. Their's is a difficult job. They go to work every day not knowing if they'll come home at the end of their shift. It's a job I wouldn't want.
Yes, it's too bad that a 17 year old is dead. Yes, it's sad that a mother and father have lost a son.but what's really sad is that a police officer will have to live the rest of her life knowing she took the life of another human being. And, should anyone think that over time she'll forget, you are wrong. She will have scars that will be a constant reminder of those circumstances.
My prayers go out to the boy's family and to the officer and her family.

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Laura Mesich

9:17 am on Sunday, December 30, 2012

I understand what your saying, but I think she took the job. It was her choice she could have choose a different job. I don't feel sorry for her at all. I feel sorry for the Firemen in New York who went out to put a fire out and got shot. But any police officer should expect to have stuff like this happen. Its like a roofer goes up on a roof all the time. They know they have a high potential to fall of the roof. it goes with the job.

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Lisa S.

5:35 pm on Sunday, December 30, 2012

Oh Laura. I certainly hope you are in school because apparently you are in dire need of an education or some common sense. Yes, the officer knew anything could happen when she took the job and when she was disptached to this call. You don't feel sorry for her at all? Well then you my friend are just plain ignorant. I doubt she wanted to have to shoot your friend. She will have to live with it for the rest of her life regardless of whether it was justifued or not. She had no obligation to stand there and be stabbed to death or otherwise by your friend who was 'out of his mind on drugs' according to you. He shouldn't have even gotten the chance to get close to her with that knife. She should have shot him before it happened. You have no respect for the police? Let's hope you never need to call one.

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I. J.

10:18 pm on Sunday, December 30, 2012

Yes Laura, and Pepe should have expected to be shot if he attacked a police officer with a knife. So by your reasoning no one feels sorry for him either. I'm sure the guilt on you is very great knowing that as friend you did nothing to help him before he got to this point.

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Tony B

8:08 am on Monday, December 31, 2012

WOW Laura you turly are oblivious and igorant, if it wasnt for good people like that deputy then who would be the police? You? Who thinks you should shoot the "bad guy" in the foot, hand, or leg after he stabs you or someone else, becuase "hes out of his mind on drugs"......... please. Well thank god your not the police because then the world would be in worst shape then it already is. And saying the "police officer should expect to have stuff like this happen" just shows how truly igorant you really are. Why dont you go tell that to the children, wifes/husbands, families, friends, and co-workers to the 150 plus police officers killed in the line of duty every year in the United States. To think that these men and women die for people like you and your dead friend, who show no RESPECT for life or law. Like I said in a earlier post, I hope the next time you need a police officer just tell them how you really feel about them, and thats its ok to try to stab or kill police officers. May God help you!!!!!!!

Tyler Foley

4:06 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012

It's very very sad that this young man died and my prayers goes to the family and friends. But the people think the officer should have used a taser instead of a gun you are not smart. I've seen people on drugs rip it right off and keep acting Insain. The officer did the right thing to save her LiFE! She was there to help not have a 17 year old slash her in the face!!! If she used a taser and the young man killed her what would you say?!?! "idiot should of shot him!!"" see so shut up and be thankful the officer lived also if you think you did wrong you are messed up!!! Hope for a fast recover for both families.

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I. J.

8:05 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012

You are totally correct Tyler. People watch too much TV and think they know the law. If an officer shoots you in the hand, foot, knee, anywhere, it is considered deadly force. A taser is a step above a baton or pepper spray and not used to disarm a person with a weapon. When you call the police, they handle the situation as they are trained, NOT according to what you want. None of the family tried to disarm him, and no where in the article did it mention what the father was doing during this incident. The officer probably saved her own life and her partners by acting as she did.

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MidwestGal

8:05 pm on Saturday, December 29, 2012

None of you would be critcizing the officer had they let the boy run off or tasered him and the boy then went and killed innocent people or worse children. Think of Sandyhook, or the movie theatre massacre - the anger/drugs/mental illness that those boys had. This is one less potential threat to my kids and family in school or a shopping mall. I am sad for the family and thankful to the officer who risked their life to save others. I pray everyday that the world has less anger, drugs and violence - until then, the police should do EXACTLY what they did. If this gets angry, mentally disturbed or drug taking thugs off the streets then so be it.

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Mom of 5

10:18 pm on Sunday, December 30, 2012

Wow:( those are some pretty harsh words for someone who prays every day that the world has less anger, drugs and violence....sounds to me like your solution is to let the police shoot and kill all the "angry, mentally disturbed or drug taking thugs"--that describes about 90% of the people in the world at any given time of the day. The officer likely did what her flight or fight response told her to do to save her life, but I don't think even she would suggest that the solution to the "evil" in the world is to shoot every dangerous citizen dead. Midwest Girl, "be the change you want to see in the world"---go look up who said that and then start praying...you might get better results.

Mayhem

4:28 am on Sunday, December 30, 2012

What good are the woulda, shoulda, couldas now? A kid is dead and an officer is hurt. Thats the jist of it. As a parent, I am saddened by the fact that the young man made some bad choices leading up to his demise. As former law enforcement, I believe the Officer took the action she felt was necessary to protect herself and others close by.

The situation is unfortunate either way. Sad that there will be a funeral that the family has to prepare for, and sad that the Officer is scarred...both physically and mentally.

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P

9:29 am on Sunday, December 30, 2012

I searched for an ounce of sympathy for the young man. It missed me. His mother maybe. His family as well as the officer was in danger, that's how she got slashed let's not kid ourselves. I didn't equate the mass murders W troubled kids but that is a great point! There recently was a story where the father was killed a son injured/ murdered by a person under the influence by his other son. Bet that dad would've said "Shoot his ... In the head!". Get It Done. I hope the officer is able to dust her shoulders off and cont' to PROTECT AND SERVE me!

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Hugo

10:59 am on Monday, December 31, 2012

>>Its like a roofer goes up on a roof all the time. They know they have a high potential to fall of the roof.

They are employed to put on roofs, not fall off them.

It's not a deputy's job description to get cut. It is a risk, it is not a reasonable expectation.

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Hugo

10:59 am on Monday, December 31, 2012

My heart swells with pride that the Deputy is alive, basically well, and has put this mutt down.

Don't do drugs!

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BitterBluePoison

1:31 pm on Monday, December 31, 2012

May God have mercy on us all. The "teenager" was alleged to be on drugs...okay. The family called the police for assistance...okay. The teenager was shot & subsequently died...okay. One officer was slashed with a knife & fired in self defense....okay. My questions are: 1. Why aren't the police taught to disarm an attacker with a knife? 2. Did the family want their family member shot to death or were they asking for help? If one of the family members had shot the teenager..would they be prosecuted? Why did the police use a gun to defend against a knife? Why is the government trying so hard to disarm the citizens of this great country? I will think twice about calling the police for help if a family member is having problems. I would appreciate their help but I don't want anyone killed. This lady cop should rethink her career choice & get a safer job. My heart & sympathy go out to the family of the deceased. Now you folks are free to opine.

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I. J.

7:34 pm on Tuesday, January 1, 2013

Here's another post by someone who watches way too much tv. Do you think every one can be Bruce Lee and disarm a knife welding suspect? The police are taught how to disarm them, with a gun. Practice with someone and see how well you fair.

Stephane Carlson

3:03 pm on Monday, December 31, 2012

Why should she reconsider her career choice? You think she did wrong? Wow. I feel sorry for everyone who thinks that. Her life was threatened. Tactical training commenced. He didn't "just" have a knife like it was some kind of fashion statement. Lunging/running at anyone with a knife, which IS a deadly weapon (is your mind blown yet?), constitutes as an immediate threat of death. Ask ANY police officer what they're trained to do when they're in a situation like that. Immobilize the threat by the quickest means possible.

Do some research on use of force first.

I'm sickened by anyone who thinks that the deputy acted out of line. Reality is, she did NOT act irrationally.

Now, had "Pepe" not come at her with the knife, had remained 15+ feet away without making any threatening gestures and he was still shot...then THERE is a reason to gripe.

Otherwise, you can't say what you would have done or what should have been done in this situation. Why? 1. You weren't there. 2. You don't have law enforcement training. 3. You weren't the person who's life was threatened.

Let the investigation say otherwise.

Bet you all kinds of money your first reaction to something like that would be to take the individual down before you're killed.

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concern citizen

3:03 pm on Monday, December 31, 2012

i dont believe what the officer did was wrong. people are just mourning the lost of someone who has influenced their lives. saying that he deserved it and that there are uneducated opinions isnt going to change anything. if you have something to remark about how Pepe has influenced your life, leave it HERE. but if it is something negative please dont. your negative remarks will not tamper with our memories of Pepe, just fuel our anger. RIP Pepe, never forgotten!

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Laura Mesich

10:44 pm on Monday, December 31, 2012

Thank all of you for trying to convince me that I am wrong in my ideas. I am sorry the officer got cut with the knife and it is so bad. I am sorry that I don't believe everything has it is reported. I agree with the person who said " if the parents shot him . . . " the parents weren't that worried or they would have run out of the house. He was not holding them at "knife Point". How do all these people know the history of Pepe and all the facts, who's to say they are correct. Yes, people take jobs and know the risk. Since they give officers guns to carry I'm sure that is because they may need it to defend their self. Good point from the Prison guard that they are unarmed and how they handle it in the prison when a crazy prisoner has a sharp object. There are numerous stories of unfair police work. They show up and try to quickly asses whats happening. They do the best they can, but something in this case went way wrong. What happened may be completely different than what anyone thinks happened. He held a 6 year old with the knife. Really Who? What 6 year old. OK really let stop the nut case comments. That is a bunch of BS. What 6 year old, someone off the street? Rumors, hearsay, speculation, Why do I bother posting on this it is a waste of time for me. Pepe is gone; another drug gang banger, killer of the street I suppose. The poor officer has to live with this and her cut, everyone is happy Pepe is dead, God pray for the area with all you folks around.

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Use common sense

11:29 am on Tuesday, January 1, 2013

We won't need to pray, we have an abundance of quality police departments in the area. But we can pray too.

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Mom of 5

5:29 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013

Laura: Don't apologize for your response to this tragedy. No one else has. What people need to understand is that when someone reacts emotionally to a situation, strong words AND actions are often involved that others may find offensive.....which is why I find it hard to believe that so many on this site are ready to crucify you for your comments when essentially and unfortunately, the officer in this case did the same. She reacted with intense fear for her life and made a split second decision, based on emotion, that she probably regrets because in retrospect, there may very well have been other ways of intervening that that would have prevented the death of a 17 year old boy (pepper spray and brute force are the two most effective tools used in the correctional setting for disarming inmates with shanks and sharps). So yes, let us all pray.....for one another....because the lack of empathy and compassion that has been revealed on this post is a symptom of exactly what's wrong with our world. I myself plan to attend the funeral and I plan to pray for the family of Pepe and for the officer. God give them all strength to get through this....the family will be mourning for a lifetime and the officer may suffer from posttraumatic stress for years to come....on top of having to deal with the lawsuits that are sure to come.

Laura Mesich

11:45 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013

Pepe had, I would guess over 400 people at his funeral who did not think he should have died. Momof5 I am not apologizing for any of my comments, I am sticking up for a something I believe was wrong. I could care less about what anyone thinks of me, I use my real name. Like I have said over and over we were not witness to this incident and in my book he is innocent until proven guilty. That is our legal system. I am proud to say tonight Pepe was honored like a king! His memory will live forever in the hearts of the many many people that knew and loved him. No, he is not a gang-banging thug that deserved to die over this. R.I.P Pepe Chavez , you died way to young before your time. We love you forever little peppers.

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I. J.

11:45 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013

Mom it is easy to see that you have no relationship with anyone in law enforcement. Believe me, that office is a hero in every way. She was attacked with a knife, injured, and still was able to stop her attacker in the ONLY way possible. You may second guess this officer because of something you read or heard about corrections, which is sooo very different from the street. This officer may be sad that she took a life, but she knows as well as the courts, that it was the ONLY choice at the time.

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Hugo

10:20 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013

Mom of 5 is a social worker, so she THINKS she's on the sharp end of these situations...but in reality, she has not a clue. Corrections officers go in knowing what to expect with sheilds, pads etc etc.

The deputy didn't react emotionally, she reacted according to her training. Knife=lethal force -----> lethal force right back atcha.

I hope the deputy is sleeping like a baby. Not only was there nothing wrong with what she did, she saved another cop who might not have been ready/willing/able to pull the trigger in time.

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Hugo

10:20 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013

And frankly, having worked in the government service sector myself, social workers mainly just kind of get in the way of things. Most are from screwed up families and HAVE screwed up families. It's not surprising their perspective on common-sense behavior is so regularly warped.

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Mom of 5

7:03 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013

Hugo: I try not to comment on things that I know nothing about. It would do you good to do the same. You obviously don't know enough police officers or you would know that they are very grateful to have social workers and crisis experts to turn to, as we are to them when it comes to a situation that nessecitates police involvement. More and more, police departments are mandating that their officers be trained on how to deal with the mentally ill....a job that traditionally has been the terrrain of social workers. Due to massive slashes in federal and state spending on community mental health services, officers are now having to do way more social work than police work &more officers are being hurt and killed intervening in situations that could have been prevented if there was more public awareness about how mental illness and substance abuse effects people EVERYWHERE and more programs to meet these needs. It's very likely that Pepe needed help a long time ago. Kids don't go off the rail just for the fun of it nor because they want to end up dead. Here we have a situation that ended with the death of a child and a seriously injured officer.Most officers appreciate and welcome the help of social workers and professional crisis experts when it comes to social and family problems-- social workers and police don't have an adversarial relationship...we count on one another. Go eduacate yourself, Hugo. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=104350808

Hugo

10:37 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013

Here's a concrete example. I was a paramedic student doing my time in an ER. Whenever a sex assault victim would come in, they would call a social worker as part of their policy. So the detectives would be standing around for 45 minutes with their thumbs up their butt waiting for the "advocate" to stroll in and tell the victim they don't have to talk to the cops, and then leave.

Uh...thanks?

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it's been real

11:18 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013

Long live Pepe.
Ill miss you more and more everyday.
Not a second has gone by where I have not been thinking about you.
I love you and always will<3
I will keep all the notes we wrote each other in school forever.
Watch over me and everyone who cares for you.
I hope you are smiling up there.
Rest in Paradise Little Pepe :']

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Mom of 5

3:04 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013

I went to the wake this morning with my 17 year old son. I was happy to see this young man had a large group of friends and family that loved him. And as for Hugo and I. J. and the like, I invite your criticisms.....it only makes my point even more vivid.....you all want to condemn someone because they have a different opinion of a controversial matter....to the point of insulting my profession....so be it. Laura M. defended her loved one and what she believed in and from what I remember of her posts, she did it without any personal insults to anyone. In case you guys have been asleep at the wheel for the better part of the last 10-20 years or more, this isn't the first time someone questions the actions or motives of the police...it is our right to question what our public officials do. I have seen in front of my very eyes in jails, prisons and hospitals, people being disarmed WITHOUT the use of guns or people getting shot. I was merely suggesting that something did not go the way it could have. Maybe the officer had no choice, but I know numerous Chicago officers and county officers and EVERY ONE said that from what is known, this didn't have to happen this way. I'm not trying to demonize the officer. She's a human being and because she's a human being, she's mostly likely not sleeping like a baby at night...she's probably reenacting the whole tragic night over and over and she will be a better officer in the end because of it.

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Laura Mesich

2:40 am on Friday, January 4, 2013

Well said Mom. I feel the same way. I am not condeming the officer, I am just saying that I think it is obvious something wrong happened. No need to slam anyone. Pepe was not defined by this incident. He was in school, he was a human being. Not running around with a knife in his hand trying to kill people. To me, the reality is the same people on the patch that are so all about the "law" do not want to follow our legal system of "we are innocent until proven guilty" If Pepe was alive he would have a trial, with evidence etc. etc. None of us was at the home that night and know what happend. Paper are not in the business to report the news, but to sell papers, so reporting are often different from facts and evidence. I have questions: why did they get so close to Pepe? Why didn't they get the family out of the house immediately if they were in danger? Why didn't they wait for more officers? If they felt they were in danger why didn't they go outside and wait for the Lockport police to show up and make a better plan? I don't think it is stupid to ask who, why, what where etc.

I hate ignorant people

7:03 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013

Hey people he is gone LEAVE HIM BE !!!!! REST IN PEACR PEPE YOU ARE MISSED !!!!

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I. J.

7:03 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013

Well Mom, I re-read my posts and did not see one insult towards you or anyone else from me. Yes you do have an opinion different than a lot of people, and yes it is your right to question anything you desire. For well over 20+ years my head has not been in the sand but out in the public and I can tell you that the calls the police go on now are very different than years ago. Parents used to parent their children. Now the police are called to handle everything from the kid wont go to school, won't come home, won't follow rules, etc... Pepe had issues long before the night he died. The officer was present for only a snapshot of his life. In that brief moment, she was attacked, and responding correctly for a POLICE OFFICER. As a few of the other posting commented, if Pepe fled the scene and hurt someone, the officer would be on the table for failure to act. Maybe Pepe needed more help or counseling before that night, I didn't know him so I can't say. What I can say from experience is that the officer performed her duty that night, and it was the only option.

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Hugo

9:33 am on Friday, January 4, 2013

>>>I am not condeming the officer, I am just saying that I think it is obvious something wrong happened.

Correct. "Pepe" produced a knife, slashed an area of vital body parts, and got shot. Pepe was that "something" which was wrong.

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E.J

9:46 pm on Saturday, January 5, 2013

A page about a 17 year old dying is not the place to have political aurguments. He was kind soul and got wrapped up in the wrong things. Bad drug reaction is completely different than mental health issues and i personally find insulting that someone compared it to sandy hook. RIP pepe... only met you a few times but you were ome of the funniest kind people ive come across in this world

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InvisibleCop1

10:30 am on Sunday, January 6, 2013

For all of the people who think this was bad police work I suggest you get a copy of the training video Surviving Edged Weapons, and watch it before commenting again.

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William Taylor

2:05 pm on Monday, March 18, 2013

Sad for the kid...but you can't take a knife to a gun fight.

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Laura Mesich

3:00 pm on Monday, March 18, 2013

Again, stupid dumb comments. People have no idea what happened. The cop overreacted and should not have shot him. Sorry for all you people who are so happy he got killed. He didn't deserve to die. There are witness to what happenend and I hope that we can see better police work if this happenes again.

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Laura Mesich

3:20 pm on Monday, March 18, 2013

Pepe was well loved and cared about by many people. He is remembered by many, and missed by many. It is terriable the way you adults are so insensative to the situation. If you dont know him you will not have the same feelings, but you can still have compassion. As an adult I can process Teenage mistakes. Yes, he knew what he was doing to a certain extent, but I am sure that he did not think he was going to have a bad reaction. Its called a "bad trip". Lots of attics die and OD, you think they wanted to die? Do you think he woke up and said "I want to stab a cop today". He was so out of his mind on drugs he probably didn't even know it was a cop. Maybe he thought he was being attacked. I am ashamed, saddened and scared that the other so called adults in this area are so stupid and can't see this situation for what it is. I would have hoped people would have been sad that another kid lost his life regarding drugs, but thats not the case.

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William Taylor

9:55 am on Tuesday, March 19, 2013

SO what you are saying Laura, it is the cops fault that he was trippin'??? Who gave him the LEGAL prescription??? Remeber that commercial this is your brain on drugs??It is not an officer's job to sit there and play social worker when someone is threatning thier life. Just say no to drugs... this is an excellent example.

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William Taylor

9:55 am on Tuesday, March 19, 2013

Hey another thought. People always want you to feel sorry for all the wrong reasons. Nobody put a gun to this boy head and made him do drugs. Stop the whinning. Life is tough and bad things happen to the good the bad and the ugly. Let hime rest in peace, but if you think I'm going to blame the cop for somebody doing drugs, then you a barking up the wrong tree. Take responsibility for your actions people.

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