Amen to that Vera!

Despite all of the whining about socialism under Obama, the U.S. has been a socialist country for a long time. Obama is nothing new. How long have we been saying certain companies are "too big to fail"? How long have we been bailing out airlines and automakers? That's not capitalism, sorry. That's socialism for private industry.

We had socialism under Bush. Does the $700 billion bailout of investment banks sound familiar? In a capitalist systems, CEOs of these banks would be out on the street selling apples and begging for food. Instead, these "crony capitalists" are out partying on our dime.

Both parties are socialist. Get over it. It's just a matter of whether we get socialism for the rich or socialism for the poor. It's not surprising that a majority of Americans chose the latter.

If it were up to me, we'd have no socialism at all. But right now, only libertarians like Bob Barr and Ron Paul are advocating such a policy. I don't think they have a prayer, because almost everyone, rich and poor, feels they are entitled to someone else's tax dollars. It's a deep moral problem that we pay for with the loss of our freedoms.

There can be no freedom without basic morality and responsibility. As long as we believe the magical "Someone Else" is responsible for our mistakes, we'll have socialism.

Ever read THE AMATURE?

Correction - the most inept president already served his second term.

Sadly, the joke is on the American people. Our current President
has accomplished nothing in 4 years. His whole agenda was to
get universal health care passed, more takeover by the government.
That's all he set out to accomplish while the economy & jobs fell by the wayside.
Now he wants another 4 years, don't think so.

Vicky, he can't do anything without Congress and the Republicans in there have done nothing but be obstructionist jerks.

"Our primary goal should be to deny Obama a second term." -Mitch McConnell, R-KY

Oh, and before you trot out the "Obummer had a majority in Congress for two years" line, I'm going to head you off. Yes, he did. However, he did not have a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate. By the time Al Franken was seated after the recount in Minnesota (which technically gave Obama the required 60), Ted Kennedy was lying on his deathbed. Only Senators on the floor of the Senate chamber are allowed to vote. Then, Congress went into recess, Kennedy died and the Tea Party-backed Scott Brown won the special election in Massachusetts.

Hey, Mr. Fangman:

Notice how NOT ONE of Patch's foaming-at-the-mouth, got-nothing-better-to-do-in-my-life, Ultra-Right-Wing-Looney-Tune posters has dared to challenge your comment?

It's funny how impossible it is to argue with facts, no?

@At Will, Love the name-calling but I've stooped low enough by letting myself
once again be drawn into the lib's dribble. Think I've finally learned my lesson.
You people are not worth my time. Adios...........

If your so God-like, why are you calling us crazies. SHAME on You!!
I will admit partisan politics on both sides is not helping anybody but
in my opinion, Obama is definitely not capable of being a leader.
Call me whatever makes you feel good, I have a right to my opinion & you yours.

BS the finacial problems were not brought on by republican policy. The congress spends the money. Congress was controlled by the dummycrats for 2 years before this mess started. There is plenty of blame to go around. The only thing destroying our country is run away deficit spending that Obuma said he would stop. Lie. He has spent trillions more and accomplished nothing.
Obuma also said he would be bipartisan but that was a lie too. Once in office he immediatly started pushing far left big gov, big spending policies and when the republicans tried to contribute he told them no, to bad we won and pushed thru things the country did not want, Like the stimulas and health care.
He is a failure and needs to be replaced.

Scotty, when it comes to deficits. Obama has not spent that much more than Bush did. Deficits never mattered to the Republicans until January 2009, why is that?

Have you taken a look at what Romney has proposed and what the CBO has said his plan will do to the deficit. The CBO has said the deficit would increase under Romney's plan.

Oh, one more thing. Didn't the Republicans run on a platform in 2010 of not passing a bill that would add to the deficit. How's that working out for them?

Patricia.......one question. how old were you in 1979????

10% unemployment
16% mortgage rates
20% interest rates on other items
Inflation
"Stagflation"
Iran hostages

President Reagan turned it around and started the economy moving forward in 3 1/2 years with a democratic run senate and congress.

Obama had a democratic senate and house for the first 2 years. He lost control when America expressed their dislike (2010 elections) for his obamacare bill. He should have spent the first two years fixing the economy. But then again what does a lawyer know about economics?

Scotty, ARE YOU FORGETTING THE TWO UNFUNDED WARS THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION STARTED??????

my opinion, read this:

Yes, he did. However, he did not have a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate. By the time Al Franken was seated after the recount in Minnesota (which technically gave Obama the required 60), Ted Kennedy was lying on his deathbed. Only Senators on the floor of the Senate chamber are allowed to vote. Then, Congress went into recess, Kennedy died and the Tea Party-backed Scott Brown won the special election in Massachusetts."

??
Reagan didn't inherit 10% unemployment.
(But it did exceed that level during his term, for nearly a year.)

Scotty,

You're wrong, amongst other things, but we don't go there. Remember the financial meltdown in the fall of 2008? McCain suspended his campaign to go deal with the crisis? TARP bailout by Bush was in 2008, well before Obama took office. He inherited a mess left by Republicans.

Bush never accounted for two wars, a prescription drug program and tax cuts. He never figured them into the budget.

Nice comment Patricia. These are the "Faux News" crazies, you won't change what's been drilled into their heads.

First, Ronald Reagan Inherited a statistically worse economy.
Second, the economic collapse was brought on by the Clinton era banking "reforms" that forced banks to make 10% of mortgage loans to low income people regardless of the fact they could NEVER pay them back.
Third, Obama had two years of a supper majority. Republicans could not stop anything.
Fourth, Harry Reid has stopped ALL legislation in Senate committees. NOTHING is allowed to come to a vote.
Fifith, our healthcare system was not the world's most expensive with the worst outcomes. That is a lie told by someone completely ignorant of how it works.
You need to cast a wider intellectual net and get your facts from somewhere other than MSMBC.
And while you are all puffed up over your love for God. Ask yourself why you would support a President who believes NO unborn child has a right to live. He fought legislation in Illinois that would have protected a child that survived an abortion. He favored throwing it in the trash.

"Third, Obama had two years of a supper majority. Republicans could not stop anything. "

Wrong, he had a majority, but he did not have a fillibuster proof majority.
http://sandiegofreepress.org/2012/09/the-myth-of-the-filibuster-proof-democratic-senate/

Republicans could stop things and they did.

"Fourth, Harry Reid has stopped ALL legislation in Senate committees. NOTHING is allowed to come to a vote. "

When the Crier of the House got elected in 2010, he made his number one priority making Obama a one term President. How is that helping our country.

Well said. Thank you Patricia J. Magee.

It would take me an hour to explain why I feel the healthcare act is bad for this country. But the bottom line is & I am quoting from a billboard I saw, "Do you want
a businessman who has generated billions or a President who has wasted
trillions. That's a no-brainer for me. I'll go with Romney..........

I don't want a businessman who has generated millions by outsourcing jobs and thinking America is a business where he can come in and just gut things like he did at Bain Capital.

Yes, Vicky. Generated billions and stored them overseas -- both jobs and his dollars. Obama wasted trillions? He put Shrub's two unfunded wars, Medicare Part D and his tax cuts for the rich in the budget. They were unpaid. That's why are deficit is so high.

Go Romney...all the way to the Cayman Island where your money is hidden.

And the answer to that over-used race card is, there's a flip side to that.
96% of African Americans voted for Obama in 2008.........................

COB go and crawl back into your mole hole! I've talked to some people about Obama and not necessarily here about my dislike of Obama and I was told I don't like Obama because of the color of his skin!

Maybe Vera was never called a racist on the Patch but I have been.
Doesn't bother me, because I know people love to throw that at you
if you say you're against Obama. Will take more than that to shut me up
because I know its not true & I don't have to defend myself against these small-minded people.

@Chronicles of Bob
You did call her racist in your post from Sept 25:
"Lisa, then your simply not paying attention.... and i dont think anyone on here thinks reps are stupid or racist. Its when people like gryan or that our vera make comments as they do are the stupid and racist. Its not the party... its people..."
Here is another post from Sept 28th:
"Vera, you have proven enough on your own... In my opinion, all of your "odumba", Michelle is "ugly" has "horse teeth" comments are bigoted in nature. No one was talking about Michelle... You brought her up... Mad at her because the "View" asked her a question... You randomly and negetivley bring up Jesse Jackson. No one was talking about him? All people you have an issue with just happen to be black.
YES, you or anyone else can call people names with out being racist. However, in my opinion, the root of your comments are racial."
Here's one where you call her a bigot also from Sept 28th:
"Also, i never said if you thinking mrs obama has a big this or an ugly that has anything to do with race. I just said that in my opinion vera is a bigot. You are more than welcome to joing that company."
So, three post in three days, one where you call her a bigot and two that, at the very least, strongly imply that Vera is a racist.

Tired you are so pathetic! What's the point of your pointless efforts? Got more time on your hands now that the Sox completely crapped the bed and wasted a perfect opportunity to make the playoffs? Saying that someone's comments are racial is not the same as strongly implying someone is racist! I mean my God, if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck its because its a fricking duck!!! Why don't you take a break from being such a D-bag and list all the comments which strongly imply Vera is a racist?

@Billable Hours
My so-called point was that Cob did call Vera a racist. When he said "Its when people like gryan or that our vera make comments as they do are the stupid and racist. Its not the party... its people..." , I pretty much see that as calling both Vera and G Ryan racist. It is kinda hard to see in just that one sentence, because COB did not do such a great job writing it, but, if you read the entire comment, it is pretty clear what COB said.
Now calm down and try to control your jealousy of the Sox . Remember, the number one sign your team is out of contention: You are a Cubs fan...and it's April!

Tbs... Are you seriously this stupid... Yes I called her racist. Yes I believe she is racist... I did not call her racist because she doesn't like Obamaor As a president. I called her a racist because of her rants, baseless claims and insults. I guarantee you thats this present was white and she disagreed with his policies should not be ripping on his wife, bringing Jesse Jackson into the picture.... and all of her other nonsense... assuming she is even a she...

Like I said I'll go with the businessman who has generated billions
instead of the President who has wasted trillions.

Is it true we produce more oil than we import than ever before?
Is it true that oil companies have record billion $$ profits and still don't "Trickle" down more jobs?
Is it true that oil companies have donated to every republican candidate that is running?

It'd be years, if not decades, before the Keystone Pipeline would create jobs and provide oil.

Care to provide a real link, please? The writing here rings about as true as the e-mails I always get from the executors of Nigerian billionaires estates needing my help.... Census data tracking exports? Importing fuel from ... Europe?

Yes I'm sure that's what the Associated Press is doing these days....

@Patricia,
You can't be for real. On one hand you apologize to me probably because you feel
God would want you to do that & it makes you feel better, the next breath you say
I'm the only one who brought up race. You know what you can do with your apology Church Lady.

For someone that is tired of the BS, he keeps adding to it and stiring it all up.

cob
I should take reading comprehension classes??? lol This coming from somebody that has problems spelling and forming coherent sentences.

Yes, thats what i said... reading comprehension classes.... why do you insist on repeating yourself...

If Romney gets elected, the Capital Building would get a makeover. It would be the Capital sponsored by Bain Capital.

Romney will be in rehab after the election.

You sure are obsessed with Bain Capital. So is Oprah Winfrey and all the teachers unions that invest with Bain. That is, they are obsessed when they look at the money Bain has made them.

Poor Mr. BS vera is obsessed with her hate for Obama. The republicans are obsessed with making Obama a one term President. You claimed to be obsessed with no more BS but we know that is not the case.

So what is your point.

Sounds similar to what some of the guards at the Nazi concentration camps claimed when they were put on trial after WWII. "Just following orders!" Who cares if it is right or wrong.

Vera, why would anyone take you seriously when you post immature garbage like that link? Even if you made a legitimate and rational point, this type of stuff would negate any of your credibility.

I'm asking whether we have ever had a successful businessman that became a successful President. That's all, not whether President Obama was qualified or not. His lack of experience was why I didn't vote for him in 2008.

...maybe ....Herbert Hoover? That went really well, right?

Agree 100%, and like Bush2 he will surely get us involved in another war in the middle east.

And if Obama is re elected he will not go to war in the middle east? He sure will!

old school
Should he just KEEP apologizing to all of the countries, in the middle east, that have a beef with us? I guess so since it's worked so well for Odumfa.

VVA, what in the world would lead you to think Obama would start a war??? Think of the conflicts in the middle east in the last 20 years...Bush Jr and Sr.. Obama has shown no inclination of starting a war there. QC, there is a reason they hate us.(Not that I really care) We should not be there in the first place. We should be pulling out as fast as possible ...let the nuts over there figure it out on their own.

Scotty,

Yes, Democrats voted for Shrub's lie to get us into Iraq. Shrub never included them in the budget. How does your stupid argument bolster the fact they were never paid for?

Stupid, ignorant of fact, and being a Republican are not good qualities, but you have them all.

Republicans are idiots and arguing with them is a waste of time.

Typical Tea-bagger....calling names. So sad and ineffective!