Truthfully folks you should stop reacting to campaign diversions and spend your time worrying about national and world affairs. Our President may be a terrific showman but as a leader of the free world he lacks. BHO’s legacy may not be that he was our country’s first minority President but that his visions orchestrated our country’s moved toward socialism and the demise of close alliances in the Middle-East and beyond. Please everyone, focus on making this country viable again.

Well said Lori

But the thing is, the majority of that 47% are NOT on welfare...they can be seniors living on social security, disabled vets, WORKING people below a certain income threshold. As a matter of fact when NBC "fact checked" the 47% comment, they said that 60% (of the 47%) HAVE JOBS. Nearly half the rest are retired - they HAD jobs. These people do (or have) paid other types of taxes - such as payroll & SS tax. To just "throw away" this whole group and label them as irresponsible is, well, irresponsible!!

The author might want to interview an entitled person. There are millions of them in Chicago. C'mon missy. Get your hoodie on and go rumble.

Good job Lori.

Listen up, Lori. I am a senior citizen who gets social security. My city pension is not taxed by my city. My mother who at 96 is destitute and pays no tax but does receive Medicaid so that she can receive nursing home care is not a freeloader. She took care of herself and her children while her husband was off fighting WW II. We are both grateful for Medicare. I hope you are never out of work and in need of help feeding your family. It could happen.
Romney was not referring only to people on welfare who are often in need temporarily while they get on their feet. Did you know that the Senator of MA , Scott Brown was a needy child who received government assistance? Mitt isn't teaching anything. He knows alot about avoiding taxes. ( He found a loophole to save the tax on a $77.000 vet bill for their horses.) But he does write a check for the Mormon church - he tithes! He avoided the draft 4 times with his money and none of his sons has been in the military. And they have not been taught by their parents that when much is given much is expected. One son recently gave a bellhop a $2 tip for taking care of enormous luggage. What do they know about people who rely on tips?

Right on Lori - if you listen to the polsters they are saying this evryday. A certain percentage has made up its mind X% are going to vite for Obama, X% are going to vote for Romney. It is the balnce that have to be swayed to win.
It is easy to critizise each candidate. Obama in his book says that push come to shove he would come down on the side of the Muslims. I am not sure what he meant but I do not think we should blow it out of proportion.
Obama says we have to tax the rich! What he does not say is that tax income is approximately 0.7% of the yearly deficit and approx .2% of the total budget. So like ALL politicians he is trying to miss lead people into thinking that taxing the rich is somehow going to solve our problems.
What both partioes and candidates need to say is that we all need to sacrifice or we are going to become a debtor nation and then we will follow the path of Greece.
Medicare is going broke. Obama's does not say that. His way to fix it was to take $500 bil out of Medicare and put it into Obamacare. He says he will eliminate\reduce fraud. But when has our government ever reduce fraud? Obama said he would go through the Budget line by line. That promise lasted until the end of his first campaign.
In Romney we have a business man who has experience fixing problems - Utah Olympics.

So a good role model is someone who takes from the middle class, puts companies out of business, defaults on loans and gives lavish bonuses to his rich investor coworkers? Get your facts straight Deanna.

Right you are, Tim.

Romney's at least as good as the role model who handed over taxpayer dollars to a political crony (Solyndra) only to see it all evaporate and the chumbalones take it again.

Barry's never run a hot dog stand, and knows nothing about business except what his fellow professors and idealogues taught him.

So Tommy Boy I don't get the hot dog stand reference. Did Mittens and Bain acquire a hot dog stand then take out a bunch of loans on it, not pay those loans back and then close shop? Or are you saying you want Dick Portillo to be the next POTUS? Did Faux News tell you that hot dog vendors are worthy presidential candidates?

Timmy, it's simple. Barry has no clue how business works. He only understands reparative eonomics. He has no clue how wealth is created, only that it can be taxed and distributed to those he deems more worthy.

Solyndra took over $500,000,000 in loans from the taxpayers at Barry's insistence and then closed shop.

Did CNNCBSNBCABCMSNBC/DNC tell you that inexperienced college professors make worthy presidential candidates? Oh wait. They did. Got it from the DNC fax.

What Barry needs is to learn trickle down economics. That plan that the Republicans keep believing in has worked so well over the past 12 years. Maybe we need to cut takes even lower so all those with wealth will create jobs...been there done that and it doesn't work.

Do the Republicans have any other tricks up their sleeve?

And by the way what is Mitt's plan eaxctly...oh yeah just do the opposite of what Barry is doing/has done...at least that is what it is today because Mitt keeps changing his mind depending on who he is talking to on a certain day.

What Mitt needs is to learn is trickle up economics. That plan that the Democrats keep believing in has worked so well for the USSR and Cuba. Maybe we need to raise taxes even higher so all those with government jobs will take all wealth...been there done that and it doesn't work.

Do the Democrats have any other tricks up their sleeve?

And by the way what is Barry's plan eaxctly...oh yeah just do the opposite of what JFK advocated and Reagan did...at least that is what it is today because Barry keeps changing his mind depending on which elitist professor he is talking to on a certain day.

Of course, Timmy does not understand the hot dog stand reference.

For those, like Timmy, who simply don't get it, it is a reference to the blank page resume that Obama brought to the 2008 campaign. To distract from the relative lack of credentials (Hillary was better qualified, but Barry's foreign policy mess has all but shot down her chances in 2016), Barry chose a set of phrases so simple that the MSM ran with it.

The simple fact is, Obama looks at his goals and intentions, rather than the actual effect of his policies. Why? He simply does not understand what it takes to run a business in this environment. He does understand class envy and raparative economics, but has little understanding how the revenue gets generated in the first place. To Obama, business is simply a source of tax revenue, nothing more.

Those of you who believe that "Trickle Down Economics" doesn't work...I suggest you apply for any future jobs you wish to hold from an indigent, living in a cardboard box under a bridge someplace! Obviously, money never runs down hill, but up hill!!! Another thing to consider is that Unions and Governments are Parasites! If they didn't extract capital from those they represent by force, they would have nothing! Government jobs only come from the extraction of capital from the private sector!

Bob have you and the rest of your right wing nutjobs always been this whiney? If the Patch is part of the liberal press why do you keep reading it? I know Fox News and Rush are complete jokes but at least watching and listening to them would make you happier.

Can you list everything that Obama has done that makes him a Socialist?

How many times have you seen 2016? Getting your facts from a hack partisan movie doesn't make you educated by the way.

Even Conservatives are turning on Romney. He is such a joke and it is laughable how wingnuts like you can't handle the facts that he will not win the election. I will bet you $10,000 (see Romney) that Obama wins.

Tim, you are going off the deep end. It is that kind of talk that drives this country into a more divided country. Remember what Obama said, we should be civil in our discussions. But of course for him that lasted about one week. It is important to talk about differences but not try to belittle or besmirch the other guy for stating his position.
The Democrats like to say that "bushes wars" were off budget. BUT, all wars are off budget - WWI, WWII, Korean War, Vetnam War. But Bush was on the way to paying down the deficit until the bubble burst. Both sides are quilty in making the housing bubble. The Democrats forced the banks to make loans to those who did not have good credit. Fanny Mae\Freddie Mac purchased those loans (a govenment backed entity). That was the first problem. The second problem was when the banks or other financial institutions found a way to divide up these mortgages and sell them to the public. SO BOTH PARTIES HAD AN EQUAL PART IN CAUSING THE BUBBLE. When Bush tried to reign in Fanny Mae\Fredie Mac the Democrats said NO, they are doing a good job (incl Senator Obama). Those orginizations are still indebt to tune of appro $300 bil. So lets talk sensibly and figure out how we are going to save Medicare for our selves and our children. When we pay into Medicare we are paying only 40% of the costs. No wonder it is going broke.

Have any of you ever met a happy, non-whiny liberal?

Bob you're right! I always told my "kids" you get nothing for nothing in this world. You have to work for it. I don't understand how anyone could vote for Obama he is such a socialist. Spending money we don't have, bringing us into a world with such anger. Yes, I'm a republican but also an independent. Can't people SEE what's happening?

Evelyn you could try anger management or stop watching Faux News, listening to Rushie and reading Drudge as those might help your anger issues.

Have any of you ever met a positive, well-informed, semi-intelligent, generous, non Faux News watching, non-whiny Conservative? I know that is a lot to remember, basically what I am asking is has anyone met a Conservative who is the opposite of Tommy Boy?

Tim, don't you have to be up early to get to Starbucks?

Run along now Barrista!!

lolz
<grinning every time I take a shot at ya>

Greece is spelled without an "A" and an "S."

Another thought. As I've asked before, and I'm truly puzzled by this; Is Mitt Romney really the best guy that the Republican Party could come up with? The party of Reagan can't find someone with a personality? Seriously, considering the economy, this is your election to lose ... and sure enough, you're losing.

Olddeegee, the republican party knew from the start they couldn't beat Obama this year so they put someone in there that had nothing to lose and they knew couldn't win. In four years they will be back again (just look at the war chest they have been building this year) and then they will try to put someone serious up for election. The problem is by then they will have lost so much of the country based on their current platform, they will have to make major changes during the next four years or they will become irrelevant.

You forgot that Obama is the one who is conducting a class warfare. He talks about taxing the rich. The increased taxes he is talking about (see Oabma's Budget on line at Whitehouse.gov.) amounts to $71 bil dollars. That is 0.7% of the annual deficit or 0.25% of the total Budget. That is like a saying a family of $40,000 with a expenses of $60,000 will solve its financial problems with an additional income of $210.00. The problem is that BOTH parties have continued to pass legislation without the income to pay the costs.

I see the from HP moved here. Your president has made us the laughing stock of the world, 16,000,000,000,000 in debt, a ambassador and three Americans have been murdered and he does NOTHING, socialist medicine, he supports taking money from taxpayers and redistributing to people who have no desire to work, is splitting this country down the middle, tells me that Idid not build my business that the government did, A freakin toaster is better than this idiot.

Obama. He has a moral compass, while Romney and Conservatives do not. Getting your money by cheating the system does not make you qualified to be the POTUS.

Barry's moral compass:

What can I regulate today? Is there something else I can tax? How do I reward my friends today?

It's The Chicago Way on a national stage.

Educate yourself, Tim. Stop watching the MSM and MSLSD.

What has the Community Organizer ever done?

Romney is a self made millionaire. Not a bad role model for my kids.

Who should be your kids role model, Biden? I give more to charity every year then he does. The dems problem is, yeah lets help everybody with "Your" money (taxes) not my own individual money.

Tommy Boy, I tried watching Faux News yesterday and I saw this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs1bb4pGAjQ

Great in-depth coverage on a fake story. Did you see how many times they mentioned this made-up story during their broadcast? Did you hear the glee in their voices when they were announcing it? Incredible fact checkers and story vetting at 'fair and balanced' Faux News as always. Do you seriously watch and believe this garbage or are you too young (you seem to whine a lot) or lacking in education (or intelligence) to know any better. I've got a bunch more of the lies and mis-information that Faux News shows their viewers, just let me know if and when you want to see them and I will fire them your way.

Timmy. Give up the MSNBC. It's lowering your IQ.

Aren't you late for your Collectivist Economic Theory class? Run along now.

Tommy Boy, here is some more fiction from Faux News...Enjoy!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk-qRU2nAUQ

You should really try to ween yourself off this, it is turning your brain to mush.

Nice, Tim.

How about you actually attend an economics class and learn something.

Put down the Chomsky and read 'How The World Works' bu Jude Wanniski.

Little Timmy, whatever will you do when your government job goes away?

Collect an allowance from Mommy & daddy? Lucky you, Barry hasn't sound a way to tax that income yet.

Ray, it was just a snippet. Jimmy Carter's grandson edited the tape before giving it to mother jones. He admitted that it wasn't the whole speech.

Details details.

The MSM has a chance to take a cheap shot at a Republican and they do not hesitate.

Handed information that might tarnish Barry's halo and they can't verify its authenticity.

Tommy Boy, do made up pirate stories repeated 19 times on Faux News & Friends qualify as a cheap shot in your book?

Actually the MSM is king of the cheap shot. They keep propping up your empty suit and willingly report his whinings that the economy is not his fault, etc.,...

You could call all their election reporting on Romney a massive cheap shot campaign.

Hey Tommy Pirate Boy, you going to answer my question or are your jumping ship on this one?

Tim, compared to the alphabet soup propaganda that has obviously consumed your inexperienced mind, Fox News has been a breath of fresh air. Instead of constantly bombarding its viewers with the 'crisis du jour that only a massive government intervention can prevent', Fox generally reports as is.

If you're going to quote the Daily Koz and take stories out of context like that, I suggest perhaps quitting your government job and applying at one of the networks. I'm sure you can pick up and read a fax from the DNC as well as any of them.

Pirate Tommy, "Fox generally reports as is"

*hilarious* and *stupid comment* and *wrong*

I'm glad you voiced the opinion you did Sam. Lazy independants too, they just take what they hear in the liberal media as fact. They need to be looking for more factual info about both Romney & Obama.

Hey Brian, if you feel so alienated by reading the Patch then stop reading it. I don't watch Fox News because it is garbage. I also don't go on their website and complain about them alienating me. There are plenty of non-liberal media sources for you to watch why don't you waste your time there and stop being so whiny?

Hey, Tim, is is garbage news to simply pull the latest fax from the DNC and read it on-air as if it were news?

Why is it that CNNABCCBSNBC all seem to have the same talking points?

Turn off the MSNBC and get informed.

Tommy Boy, I've already said that I did try to get educated about Faux News and found out that their viewers are the most uniformed viewers of any major news channel. In fact it was found that those who watch no news are more informed than Faux News viewers. So as I have said watching Faux News makes you dumber. I assume you would want to be more informed than less informed right?

Were you part of the study's survey sample? Do you like to dress up as a pirate?

Timmy, do you dress like a girl? You sure whine like one.

Gotta give up the MSNBC. Your IQ is getting lower...

That's hope and change at work.

The economy went on life support the day Barry passed Hillary in the polls. It has not come back.

Here here ! This is the best comment yet! THE TRUTH ! Thank Annivar! YEah lets talk about who's living off off someone else.....aren't all the public servants doing that?

Totally agree. Assistance is needed for people living in poverty, however the issue is how that assistance is provided. FDR's WPA helped millions of people during the depression, but people had to WORK for what they got. It was the forerunner of today's welfare programs, which unfortunately does not require people to work. This is bad policy and created generations of people on welfare.

This was hilarious. Unfortunately also true!

Actually not funny at all. pretty stupid in my opinion.

Oh Tim L. It is your opinion that matters to me soooo much!

Your response actually (and sadly) fulfills the 'support test' required by IRS regulations, Tom.

Careful, Tim L. might lose composure when faced with this fact.

KE- words of advise....stop watching MSNBC. Sounds like you take notes from Chris Mathews. Romney is more compassionate than Obama could ever dream to be. Where did you hear that Romney doesn't care about women, Latinos, Blacks or the poor? This doesn't even make sense. And if he is "still fixing it" I would hate to see what happens by the end of the year. Wake up

Thank you KE. Read my reply to Lori - way back in the beginning of this "conversation".

Mmm...boy this Kool Aid tastes great, doesn't it, KE?

Barry put on more debt in four years than the previous administration did in eight.

Anyone want to help Barry out? He invested his Nobel Peace Prize in Solyndra stock and he needs some wealth spread to him.

If Beyonce was there, well, I can understand ...

Would you stay in Washington and have to deal with jobless millions, international trade issues, the deficit, the resulting debt, the mid-east on fire, Prime Minister Netanyahoo waiting in your office, ... (and the list goes on) ... when you could go to a party and meet BEYONCE!

Love how Sig and Judy direct us to Glenn Beck to tell us how great Romney is. Do the two of you seriously think Glenn Beck is a non-partisan, trusthworthy newsource? If Glenn Beck can't even keep his job at the hyper-partisan, non-truth telling joke that is Fox News do you expect anyone to take him or anything he says seriously. The two of you are so far gone if you think Glenn Beck speaks the truth, keep searching for those "treasure trove of goodies" Judy...LOL.

Tim,

address the facts... the lame-stream media not doing journalism... then Bob Woodward writes a book spelling out truths... he is vilified...

The point is who is a better role model... I would easily take Romney... Obama being from the Madigan/blago/Dem Chicago machine... um don't think so...

if you wish to dispute anything we or Beck pointed out... please fact check that... otherwise... let's talk facts.

Sig, I have fact checked and it is proven by studies that Fox News viewers are the most uniformed and misinformed viewing population for any news channel. So it is proven that watching Fox News makes you stupid. It has also been proven that Fox News has made an art form of lying, that is why Conservatives love the channel so much.

I am not disputing the story about Mittens and milk, I am disputing the source it came from that you have to admit is a complete clown and snake oil salesman. The fact that you and Judy listen to someone who is a complete laughingstock and whom Fox News kicked to the curb shows where you get your fair and balanced news from.

You are so desperate to find some reason to support Romney that you think the fact that he donated milk justifies him to be POTUS is hysterical. There are many, many people who do great deeds during their life, that does not make them qualified to be President. One good deed does not make up for all the skeletons, both known and unknown in Romney's closet. Romney is a gaffe machine. He is bought and paid for by his billion dollar donors. He has put people out of work so that he personally can profit from it, hidden money in offshore accounts to avoid paying taxes, and the list goes on and on.

Keep watching your fake Fox News, keep whining about the lame stream media and please, please keep donating to the losing cause which is Romney's campaign.

And Mitt was down in Boca Raton with his very rich play boy friend and others who despise the working class.

Tim L. thinks that CNNABCNBCCBSMSNBC are fair and balanced.

Time for a clue, Tim.

Time for more hard hitting pirate stories on Faux News Tommy Boy.

Time for another Romney hit piece on CNNCBSNBCABCMSNBC, Timmy.

Tommy the Pirate, try tearing yourself away from fair and balanced Faux News for a minute and watch CNNCBSNBCABCMSNBCTOMKISREALLYDUMB for a minute to learn what ethical reporting looks like.

Ethical reporting...from a completely agendaless and objective reporter like Dan Rather I suppose.

Timmy, time you left the nest. your parents need the basement for storage...or and S&M dungeon...in any case, it's time from you to go earn a living. C'mon Timmy.

Squirrel.

You're an extreme minority relying on confirmation bias. Your failure to see how badly this "gaffe" of Romney's alienates even more voters is indicative of the disconnect that many current "conservatives" suffer from. Seriously, a half a dozen clueless comments on the Patch is not a voting block. You have to win in order to serve.

Yes! And don't ever let those facts get in the way of your opinions!

The recent rash of news reporting from the 'completely unbiased and serving their intelligent and informed audience' media show that the DNC does not actually like their chances in November. Over sampled democrats in polling data might fool the general public, but even Barry's people are worried.

Tommy Boy, can you provide the source for this "DNC does not actually like their chances in November. Over sampled democrats in polling data might fool the general public..."? Did you make this up or did this come from Faux News (same thing I guess)

Pirate Boy, your running away from answering this question too?

Timmy, you are running away from admitting that Barry's the most unqualified occupant of the oval office in history. Obama's lack of accomplishments since taking office (other than those who now engender much of the animus against him) should come as no surprise. He had nothing to put on his resume before then, and he has little now.

If Barry's handlers were so confident of victory, as you are, there would be no need for the coordinated media-DNC effort to tear down Romney.

Oh yeah...this isn't about Fox News, Timmy. It's about a vision for America. we've seen Barry's: destruction of the private sector and any institution that once made America great and substitute an all-powerful government.

Timmy likes this, since he's never been able to comprehend just how business works. He just collects his goverment check and a few bucks from the parental units and hangs out at Starbucks, complaining about how unfair the world is.

Yup. Life's unfair. Timmy. Get a helmet.

AMEN!!!!

More, blah, blah, blah Christian Conservative claptrap. We didn't form this nation on the notion of "Freedom Of Religion" it was "Freedom From Religion". As far as the tea party, just a lot of slogans and non-understanding of how Government works.

You're going to do this by electing a Non-Christian?

Alisha
You say that we should return this country to a Christian Conservative Constitutional principles but GOD represents freedom, giving people the choice to live their lives as they see fit. And this attitude that America has about just worrying about ourself is not anything of GOD as Christians we are called to feed people where they need feed, we are called to clothed people, who need clothed, and we are called to make more disciples for his kingdom, worrying about self is not anything of GOD. I am so scared for us because of so called Christians this is why we are in the position that we are in, who are you to judge.

SO TRUE! SO TRUE!

Koz, you are completely wrong as always. The majority of Americans have an unfavorable opinion of the Tea Party and people who identified themselves as active tea party members has dropped over the last two years. if you are the majority why do tea party supported candidates keep losing elections?

I agree with you stop being silent. Watch this clip from one of the tea party leaders that shows how well thought out and intelligent the tea party arguments are.
http://www.upworthy.com/what-happens-when-you-pit-a-tea-partier-with-stale-talking-points-against-actual?g=2

Wow is that embarrassing. She literally has nothing to back up her talking points. She spews the same old tired Tea Party lines and when she is asked to back up her claims she has nothing. She comes across a lot like you!

Sue Odumba is not Christian either!!

The TEA Party has really one plank: Get the government spending under control and force it to live within its means. Period. That is their mission. There is no other plank in their platform.

Now, if you ask the general public (folks like Tim L.) what the TEA Party's mission is, they will answer that it's racism, homophobia, class elitist, etc.,...

The 'unbiased' alphabet soup media has basically read the DNC talking points on the group so much that the propaganda has firmly taken hold.

Mission accomplished indeed.

Sue, please get a clue. Mormons are christians! They believe in Jesus Christ which makes them CHRISTIANS........

The definition of a Christian is?????????

A person who has received Christian baptism or is a BELIEVER IN JESUS CHRIST and his teachings.

Jews are not christians, Muslims are not christians, Buddists are not christians, and atheists are not a christians.

But Tommy Boy, what about all the racist, homophobic, elitist signs at Tea Party events? You need links to see the pictures? Let me guess, astroturfing right?

There has not been one documented sign at these rallies that was in any way endorsed by any TEA Party member. The reports fail to note that any idiot bearing such was immediately escorted from the event.

But, CNNCBSNBCABCMSNBC didn't tell you that, did it, Timmy?

Well you can never trust what is posted by Fox news. You can never tell if what they are using is actually real footage:
http://www.dailykos.com/tv/w/002332/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HalvKdgELj4

Ah...using a left wing nutjob website to make a point.

You guys need to get date or something. May be see a band play. No...not RATM. lolz

Hey Tommy, better run along and tell your mom they lowered prices on baby food at the Jewel. You might have enough money to get a couple of jars for dinner.

You're funny, Logansdad. Isn't your government check waiting in you mailbox?

Best get it in the bank so you can write a donation check to re-elect The One.

You can spend the rest on Hopium. It's ok. Logan can feed himself, can't he?

Tommy Boy, you're lying again...
Lots of proud tea partiers holding these signs at tea party events. Racism 101 brought to you by the Tea Party...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S38VioxnBaI

I can use Photoshop too, Timmy.

For those whose IQ has not fallen to room temperature due to indoctrination by left wing media, The TEA Party has ONE PLANK in their platform. Just one: Get government spending in line with revenues. That's it.

Those whose livelihood depend on continued government spending regardless of income needed to discredit this simple platform. Since they can't win in the marketplace of ideas by advocating their position directly, they need to manufacture racism or otherwise distract from their unsustainable position.

That's it, folks. TEA Party is simply for putting the brakes on government spending.

Tommy the Pirate, who and when were you made Grand Wizard of the Tea Party? When did the Koch Bros hand over the keys to you?

I am confused because I thought the Tea Party was a bunch of different grass roots organizations, nothing done or coordinated at the National level. Has this now changed and are you now coordinating all of their efforts? Are you the Grand Pooh Bah of their "plank". Do you wear your pirate hat at their meetings?

In terms of photoshopping that is a good one, wrong but still good. You want live video? Let me know if you want more of these examples of their racism. There is some awesome stuff from many of these groups's individual websites, if you want to see them just let me know.

Tommy Boy, I don't collect anything from the government so unlike you I am not waiting for any government checks to arrive in my mailbox.

Yes Logan can take care of himself, the question is will you be able to take care of yourself?

If he hadn't doubled down the next day it would have been a "small sound bite", but he dove right in and denigrated a large portion of the people that he needs to win the Presidency.

I agree Debbie. Everyone, especially Olddeegee needs to educate themselves on what is really happening. Start by seeing the 2016 movie. I think many people would be amazed (and scared out of their mind) at Obama has been doing. http://2016themovie.com/

About your "movie".

http://movies.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-anti-obama-film-muddy-facts-072153385--politics.html

Let's see...Oldgeegee uses a liberal's take on the film to discredit a film that dares to do what the press should have done in 2008...nice.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama

and you know this how??? CNBC???

Nope. Even lamer: MSNBC.

@train17 - You kind of are talking out of both sides of your mouth. Gas HAS doubled. You can thank the OIL COMPANIES for that. Every quarter they seem to boast "record profits." Last time I checked the oil companies are PRIVATELY owned - not government owned. And 2006 is irrelevant. Employment in 2006 wasn't what Obama inherited. In January 2009 he inherited the highest unemployment rate in 14 years. See this link:
http://www.epi.org/publication/webfeatures_econindicators_jobspict_20081107/

My house depreciated that much as well. Again, that has nothing to do with Obama. That is the banks' fault. They overstretch EVERYONE. I'm under water too. Join the club.

Why hasn't Obama gotten anything accomplished that he promised? Simple Answer: John Boehner and his Republican House. The current House stops everything they can.

I am sorry you lost your job. I am sorry for everyone who loses their job. It is tough. It sucks. Been there. Done that.

Look at where we were in November 2008. Look at where we are now. We are slowly climbing back up. We need to see the forest thru the trees.

Julie J you nailed it on the head. Romney is a joke! He's controlled by the Koch brothers and Baine boys. He's one flip short of a happy meal. He'll sell this country to the highest bidder, China perhaps. He wants to be POTUS yet he won't pay his fair share of taxes, tax dogger. Show those tax returns big man and show what kind of a person you really are. What's he's afraid of?
Clinton left and we were in the black, 8 yrs later Bush leaves and we're in the hole!

Train17 I lost my job because of Romney and now I work 3 and still not making what I did with my one. I surely wasn't part of the middle class that Romney refers to ($200,000.-$250.000) but I paid my taxes and left my money here in this country!!! Good Luck finding work, keep the faith!

Umm. Thank regulation and taxation for that.

@Moe
Huh?

From day one....

Blame the Republicants, birthers, tea party nutjobs and Fox News lemmings for the divisiveness seen in the Country. Bunch of adults acting like grade school kids who cry and whine because the President is not a Republican. Never saw Democrats pull this level of crap when Bush was in office. People are literally running from the Conservative movement because it has become such a joke.

Tim L is right.

Maybe Guantanamo should be kept open just to house the likes of Eric Cantor and Mitch McConnell.

More wisdon from Tim L.:

"Blame the Republicants, birthers, tea party nutjobs and Fox News lemmings for the divisiveness seen in the Country."

The above shows just how effective the coordinated campaign between the 'unbiased and intelligent' media and the DNC-Obama white house has been.

According to loony, programmed lemming liberals like Tim, Obama has no responsibility at all. This Cook County Chicago machine politician who rammed through his big government massive regulation and taxation agenda for two years with filibuster-proof control of both houses of congress has nothing to do with the repudiation his party suffered in 2010. Nothing at all people.

His policies of print money and spend created the TEA Party, whose sole mission is getting government spending under control.

"This Cook County Chicago machine politician who rammed through his big government massive regulation and taxation agenda for two years with filibuster-proof control of both houses of congress has nothing to do with the repudiation his party suffered in 2010. "

Obama did not have a fillibuster proof majority for two years. It was roughly two months:

http://www.alan.com/2011/12/20/chris-christie-thinks-obama-had-filibuster-proof-majority-for-two-years-hes-wrong/

Ok, Logansdad.

Barry's fellow travellers had majorities in both houses for two years.

He's a role model for those who want to run the country as efficiently and effectively as Chicago, Cook County, and the State of Illinois.

Tim L., for instance.

It's not Barrys' fault.

Really?

Obama has been in power for nearly four years, people. In complete control for his first two years, hence ObamaCare, banning of light bulbs, heavy coal electricity regulations, etc.,...

Was the same deflection of responsibility accorded GW Bush in 2004? Answer true, liberals.

George W. Bush was the absolute worst president EVER and Romney will be just as bad. He, like Bush is a buffoon.

Hank, please stop parroting Chris Matthews and site examples. That way we can discuss and debate and not sound like kids.

I'm not parroting anyone , I'm speaking my mind. Who is Chris Matthews?

Naah. Hank's a Keith (did I really get fired from MSLSD?) Olbermann guy.

Hank how old are you. The worst president (up til now) was Jimmy Carter. He was a smart man just didn't have the skill set to run the country.

Remember 16% mortgage rates, 10% + unemployment, inflation, stagflation

Kerry who are you fooling. Obama is for the rich...that is a good laugh. Do you think Romney is not.

The country is in no worse shape than when Bush left office.

From a regulatory and taxation sense, it is actually worse. That is what is the hidden foot on the brake pedal preventing the economy from expanding.

If you own a business and employ people, you understand this. If you're like Tim L., and get a government check every two weeks, you don't.

my opinion, too scared to write his name, Carter was bad at the Presidency agree , he was too kind and honest. I'm old enough to have bought my first home at 18.25% under the Reagan regime.

Actually, interest rates finally started to decline once Reagan took office.

Carter was possibly the worst President ever. His cozying up to the world's dictators, oppressors (folks in the US have no idea what repression is), and enemies of the US is borderline treasonous.

Tommy the Pirate, only government assistance I have ever received have been student loans that I have paid back in full. I have a sneaking suspicion that you can't say the same can you mr. hustler (btw I don't think seasonal lemonade stands count as owning your own business).

Timmy, all you have is name calling and character assassination. This is out of the Rules for Radicals playbook that you no doubt have an autographed copy of.

Come back when you have a real argument.

very good

Jeez, if you're going to blame Obama for the debt you might as well give him credit for capturing Sadaam Hussein.

Barry accumulated more debt in four years (less than four years, actually), than the previous administration did in eight.

Continued: ACORN stages a demonstration in front of the ant’s house where the news stations film the group singing, We shall overcome. Then Rev. Jeremiah Wright has the group kneel down to pray to God for the grasshopper’s sake.
President Obama condemns the ant and blames President Bush, President Reagan, Christopher Columbus, and the Pope for the grasshopper’s plight.
Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid exclaim in an interview with Larry King that the ant has gotten rich off the back of the grasshopper, and both call for an immediate tax hike on the ant to make him pay his fair share. Finally, the EEOC drafts the Economic Equity & Anti-Grasshopper Act retroactive to the beginning of the summer.
Andy Stern and SEIU SUE the Ant, and with the support of Eric Holder Set a Court date for The ant and He is fined for failing to hire a proportionate number of SEIU UNION GREEN BUGS and, having nothing left to pay his retroactive taxes, his home is confiscated by the Government Green Czar and given to the grasshopper.
The story ends as we see the grasshopper and his free-loading friends finishing up the last bits of the ants food while the government house he is in, which, as you recall, just happens to be the ant’s old house, crumbles around them because the grasshopper doesn’t maintain it.
The ant has disappeared in the snow, never to be seen again.

Thanks, Tom - for implying that anyone who worked his butt off and then lost a job and had financial resources depleted and needed some assistance in a tough job market is just a lazy, foolish grasshopper.

"If you're not rich, you must have been lazy" - just go with that slogan, Mitt!

Let's get America working again by removing the greatest impediment to economic growth in the US today: Barack Hussein Soetero Obama and all his so-called intellectuals and their anti-business pro-regulatory policies.

Here, here Tommy Boy, deregulation really helped Lehman Brothers didn't it? What we need is less regulation so that firms like Countrywide can give out more and much higher risk predatory home loans because it is those loans that will get us out of the housing crisis.

Of course, it isn't the borrower's fault for taking on too much debt. Naah. Evil, predatory lenders are to blame. The bankers lied and cheated as people financed their McMansions. That's why all those homes were repo'd, it was all a plot by the banks. Right, Timmy. Right out of the MSNBC playbook.

Actually is was the collapse of the high risk loan market called credit default swaps that imploded credit back in 2008. We needed leadership to head that off. Chris Dodd and Barney Frank insisted that Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae were just fine, right up until they went off the cliff.

Also, the so-called predatory loans are a Clinton legacy, where banks were required to lend a certain percentage to 'targeted groups' in order to have a seat at the federal table. These targeted borrowers had less than great credit, so they defaulted in greater numbers.

Epic delusional rant from Koz. You are absolutely losing it Koz / grasshopper!

Uh oh. You ruffled Tim L.'s red feathers!

So the draft was SLAVERY?

Not fair at all. It's nice to see you agree that churches should be paying more income taxes too.
I'm betting you have a different 'group' you are talking about though, don't you.

Now...why are they losing readers again?

Must be that nasty internet, it can't be their bias! They aren't biased. Right, Tim?

You may have changed your sign on name here but you still espouse the same garbage.

He's not a muslim.

He's agnostic.

The President is NOT a muslim. Opinions are one thing, but stop distorting facts.

Nope. Having absolutely no faith in the American people to do the right thing, Barry is an agnostic devotee of the power of big government.

He views himself as a sort of benevolent earthbound deity, bestowing his blessings on those who offer tribute. It's the Chicago Way gone national.

Solyndra? Ahhhhhhmennnnnnnnn.

I am doing about the same as I was 4 years ago.

Everything you need to buy has increased - is that due to the fact that gasoline has increased? As you may know the president does not control the price of gasoline.

"Oh, and Libya was quiet for 25 years after Reagan bombed them. NOW they're back?" So you think a country should just stay the same after 25 years?

"We look weak because our President IS weak" - Really which president put an end to Bin Laden - it was the one you referred to as weak. The United States is more liked under Obama than it was during the Bush era.

Bob, you better check ,as Obama said he was a Muslim.

I'm much better off than I was 4 years ago.
I'm making 40% more than I was 4 years ago.

Kerry,
Let me guess; you got that from Fox News? Unreal.

Bob B ,let me guess, you did not do your homework. During the 2008 campaign, he admitted it in an interview. It was all over the news. You need to check speeches he has given on the topic.

Kerry,
You are so wrong it is laughable. Check out your supposed facts on factcheck.org, instead of relying on ridiculous emails and rumors. Your ignorance on this matter pretty well eliminates you from any meaningful and intelligent discussion. You do, however, share something with Vera. You two should get together and spew your lies and hatred all you want to each other. Birds of a feather.

Bob b. You are so uninformed that its beyond belief. Sept 9 , 2008 television interview with George Stephanopolous . Obama slips and mentions his Muslim faith. Need me to do all you research for you?

Kerry,
One final time; can you please stop spouting right wing propaganda? Here is the TRUE information from fact check, which is an independent site:
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/12/truth-on-the-cutting-room-floor/

And the headline for the article is as follows:
Truth on the Cutting Room Floor
A YouTube video edits Obama's words to create a false impression.

Now go turn on Fox News and revel in the ongoing idiocy.

Bob b , You need a reality check. its a shame you are not informed of FACTS . You need to stop listening to the liberal media and form your own opinions. One final time ,can YOU stop the left wing propaganda and lies?

Gosh Kerry, if there was only some place where one could check on facts. Oh yeah, there is; FACTCHECK.ORG! Facts, not opinions, not left wing or right wing; FACTS. Sorry but true facts beat your sorry excuse for edited garbage.

Edited garbage is CNNCBSNBCABCMSNBC's bread and butter.

What's the fequency, Dan?

The attacks happend on 9/11. From what I heard it, the attacks were terrorism. Do you believe terrorists need a reason to do what they do? On 9/11/01, most middle eastern countries were burning the American flag and pictures of Bush when they learned planes flew in to the buildings. Do you honest think those in the middle east care who is the president, they will continue to hate American no matter who is in charge.

Have to agree with Logansdad. They hate America. Be it Barry or Romney in charge, it will not matter.

Barry did say he would calm the anti-American storm, didn't he?

Hope and Change again *sigh*

Do you really think Romney will do a better job when in comes to foreign affairs?

He spent one week in Europe and managed to tick off the British, the Poles and the Palestinians.

The world has a more favorable view of America with Obama in charge than it did during the Bush years.

Hard to do worse than Barry has.

Barry said he would make the seas recede and calm the Muslin world.

Damn...the hopium buzz wore off.

I agree with you, Hank. and with Christopher Hitchins "Religion poisons the world".

Atheist suck and are low life losers!

I can't help but laughing at Vera.
Is she aware that a bunch of atheists created the internet she is using right now?

Im an atheist as well, and probably donate more to charity than most 'religious' people earn. I wouldn't be surprised if most of my financial help goes to those who still believe in sky fairies.

It's time that Atheism be granted the same status as all other religions.

Atheism, like all religions, is a belief system and is as worthwhile or worthless as any of them. You can neither prove nor disprove the existence of God, nor can one seriously question another American's religious practices or non-practices.

Granting favors to any religion is anathema to those who do not subscribe to that particular faith. This has been repeatedly tested in the courts and the decisions nearly always favor one belief system at the expense and pain of all others.

It's time that the government stop establishing and supporting the religion of Atheism.

Atheism is a belief system, in the same way that not playing golf is a sport.

Sorry, pal. Atheism is objectively no more valid than any other religion.

It's time to for the courts to stop establishing Atheism as first among all religions.

Right, all those atheists that pay $0 in income taxes, are being 'favored' over other religions who have to pay federal income taxes...

Wait, no. That's actually not true anywhere, is it Tom?

Do you want atheists to pay $0 in taxes, or do you want other religions to pay >$0 in taxes? Take your pick, and I will fully support whichever one as long as they are equal in treatment.

I actually agree with that. Tax 'em. Provided that Athiests and Deity Chasers get to deduct all other charitable giving.

Atheism is not a religion....if it were I would not have to pay taxes.

Sorry, Hank. Atheism is objectively no more valid a belief system and way of being than Catholicism, Protestantism, Buddhism, and the rest.

It's just another '-ism', except that this 'ism' has state sanction and establishment.

Hey. Stop that. Tim's government check went up 40% in the last four years. He's better off, so we all need to sit down and shut up like good conservatives.

Bob, what does "Some of work and came spend all day here" mean?

Let me know where you want to meet to make the bet, I'm game on the $10,000 bet. If you are willing to bet your retirement on Mittens, let's do this.

Patrick Henry, At least the author has the courage to put her name on her work and not hide behind a non de plume in the public domain. Why not live up to the great Henry name and fight for your rights and freedoms?

So ,you post under your real name?

Money that he couldnt get into offshore accounts fast enough or was it money donated just to reduce his tax liability?

Bwahahaha.

Nice try.

You wish you had money in offshore accounts.

Nice try is right Tommy. Is that the best you can do?

You are worried about me having offshore accounts. Well I would classify the spare change that was tossed in your cup today out on the street corner as your savings account.

Actually I own a business and have to meet a payroll. I have to hustle for every dollar I get.

How about you? Pole dancing? Community organizing? Tax preparation?...or perhaps something productive.

Tom ,dont forget that business you own? You didn't build that.

Right you are, Kerry.

The government did it all and simply handed me the golden key.

My business, like all businesses, is just a place for Timmy and others of his ilk to siphon off their subsistence.

Tommy boy: "I have to hustle for every dollar I get."

So now we know what kind of business you are actually running. No wonder why you are having a tough time making ends meet. Maybe it is time you learn something knew. Since you mentioned Pole Dancing..it would seem as if you have tried it before. How did it work out for you?

Bye

Naah. You gotta keep an eye on these liberals.

Take yer eye off 'em and next thing you know they'll be handing out medical marijuana while punishing cigarette smokers and banning light bulbs...

That's right. Everything right now, regardless of the consequences, the cost, or who has to pay for it!

Make the minimum wage $55.00 an hour and don't even try and raise your prices to cover the costs Mr. Businessman, you got into business solely to pay your employees, not for evil profits.

Pro Union - Agreed, in private industry but not in government. Not Ever.

Pro Abortion - Hey, you wanna kill your own kid, that's on your conscience. Don't expect me to pay for it though, as it will be on your wallet as well.

Pro Health Care - Rationed care is coming, as the costs associated with Obamacare have already exceeded what the intellectual glitterati thought they would be. The only way to cut costs is to cut care. McCain was right. Sadly.

Tommy the Pirate, help me out here if you will. I've got this mental image of you based on all your rants and I am wondering if you can confirm if I am thinking along the right lines. Here is my mental image, let me know how close I come...
You are a fairly paranoid, occasionally depressed individual who thinks that most people and all government are out to get him. You often have trouble in social settings, meeting new people and have been called socially awkward before. You spend most of your day watching or listening to partisan right-wing fake news, often screaming at the t.v., things like "Yes, Yes Hannity, you get it, you had me at hello". You shed some tears when Beck was booted off Fox. You are an strange combination of dopiness and dumpiness. You are childlike in some ways, holding on to some things from your childhood like playing with G.I. Joes or choo choo trains.

Am I close at all Tommy Boy? Basically I envision you along the lines of the real Tommy Boy, Chris Farley (RIP), just without the comedic skill he had.

Wow. Tim you totally nailed it. Not even close, bud.
Let me describe you from your scribblings...

Like most liberals, you need to distract from any real argument by impugning the messenger, or changing the subject, since you really can't make a cogent counter argument. You have little trouble in social settings, since you find yourself surrounded by others who share your affinity for the ideas of Marx and Lenin. you no doubt joined the Occupy protests, deriding evil corporations while sipping a Starbuck's and tweeting fellow travelers on your iPhone. You have never even tried to open a business, much less run one. You have no idea the amounts of time and money spent simply complying with government paperwork - all before any revenue generating work can be started. You think that all businessmen are evil profiteers who take advantage of their employees by not paying them like rock stars. In fact. you view all businesses as simply a source of payroll and tax revenue.

You never left your childhood. You're still there. A little kid, still expecting the parents to pick up the tab.

Grow up, Timmy. ...and smile more.

Pirate Boy Tommy, I am smiling, actually laughing, reading all of your right wing conspiracy theory rants from the wee hours this morning. You were like the conspiracy theory energizer bunny you just went on and on and on with your delusional commenting. Was there steam coming out of your ears as you banged away on your computer at 1:00 a.m? Was sweat dripping from your brow by the time you were done?

In terms of not being close on the Pirate Boy mental image, did I nail any of it? I have a funny feeling that I probably got many of your characteristics right. I am having a hard time believing much of what you say because of your willingness to lie in your posts, you have been taught well by your boys at Faux News. You seem to have been taught well, you are like a young lying Faux News jedi in training.

Since I can't trust you is there anyone on these message boards who knows Pirate Boy Tommy? Can you vouch for him and that I was "not even close" in my description of him.

Speaking of model trains...

http://6thfloor.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/well-hello-mr-soul/

That would imply that Barry has a pair.

notgonnahappen

Don't bother. He's a squirrel.

Not worth the trouble.