Critics Sound Off on Plainfield Charter School Proposal
Education company K12 Inc. wants to partner with a non-profit to bring an online charter school to districts including Plainfield, Oswego and Valley View.
For-profit company K12 Inc. and its non-profit partner, Virtual Learning Solutions, want to bring an online charter school to 18 suburban Chicago school districts.
But the proposal could be fighting an uphill battle, if the reception it received at Monday night’s Plainfield school board meeting is any indication.
K12 representative Todd Thorpe gave District 202 board members and residents an overview Illinois Virtual Charter School @ Fox River Valley, an online public charter school targeting school districts including Plainfield, Valley View and Oswego.
“The idea is not to replace a school,” Thorpe told the board during a public hearing on the proposal. “ … It gets back to school choice. Virtual Learning Solutions believes parents should have a choice.”
District 202 Assistant Superintendent for Curriculum & Instruction Glenn Wood said the board will vote on the proposal at its April 15 meeting, scheduled for 6:30 p.m. at Indian Trail Middle School.
How it works
Thorpe said Illinois Virtual Charter School @ Fox Valley would function much like a public school in that parents would not pay tuition — not directly, anyway.
The online school would be required to admit all students who apply and would use state-certified teachers. Students would have to take the same state tests as District 202 students, and the school would be subject to the same state and federal regulations, Thorpe said.
Everything students need for courses — from a computer, monitor and printer to textbooks and school supplies — would be supplied by Virtual Learning Solutions, according to Thorpe.
'Stay away from my tax dollars'
Under the proposal, Virtual Learning Solutions would have a contract with K12 to provide the curriculum for the online charter school, which would get a proposed $8,000 per student.
That $8,000 would come from state tax dollars that would be diverted from District 202’s coffers, going instead to Virtual Learning Solutions.
Joliet City Councilman Larry Hug said he attended Monday night’s meeting strictly as a parent.
“You’re here to make money,” Hug told Thorpe, comparing the online charter school to a private school like Providence Catholic High School.
“I encourage you to offer the same product at Providence high school on your own dime,” he said. “Stay away from my tax dollars. Our public education is being gutted and you want to gut it more for profit.”
In Illinois, the current foundation level, or amount of per-student state funding allotted to school districts, is $6,119. But General State Aid (GSA) is only being paid out at a rate of 89 percent, meaning District 202 is actually receiving $5,734 per student this year.
Thorpe countered that only an estimated .25 to .50 percent of the district’s total enrollment would likely make the switch to the charter school.
“Online education isn’t for everyone,” he said, adding that the virtual school could be a good fit for students who struggle in a traditional classroom setting. “It’s a very small percentage that’s interested in a full-time virtual environment.”
Wood questioned the need for the online charter school. “We feel that District 202 meets all those students’ needs and more,” he said.
Betsey Vinson, a parent and vice president of the District 202 CAPE organization, said she worries about the lack of social interaction for students who attend class online.
Vinson also worried about the impact of losing state funding dollars in a district that’s already had to make painful spending cuts in recent years. “I would hate for us to lose any more good staff,” she said.
Wood questioned Thorpe about data showing 25 to 27 percent of students at K12 schools reaching adequate yearly progress (AYP) in math and reading.
Thorpe said the scores were the result of the students’ level of proficiency at the time they entered the charter schools — a claim that drew the ire of Association of Plainfield Teachers President Dawn Bullock.
“Across the nation, this company can’t seem to deliver good grades. We’ve heard that they blame the students that they receive,” Bullock said.
Ann Bachman-Thomas, UniServ director for the Illinois Education Association and National Education Association, urged the board to vote against the proposal.
“We do think that this is a bad idea for public schools, especially here in Plainfield,” she said.
Board member Rod Westfall also balked at the turnover rate for online charter school students. On average, Thorpe said, students attend K12 schools for one to two years.
When a student transfers back to District 202, the district will regain responsibility for his or her education — and the costs that go along with it.
"That's going to have a severe impact on us," Westfall said. "In the meantime, you have our [tax] dollars and we can't recoup that."
K12 controversies
Thorpe also took heat from board members and residents, who asked about class action lawsuits filed against K12, and a recent a Nashville-based NBC report alleging that its teachers were being told to delete failing grades.
He called the report a misunderstanding, saying the email conversation at the center of the story was referring to the fact that students can take assessments multiple times.
“The teacher was assigning a grade based on the average” of the students’ scores, Thorpe said.
Thorpe declined to comment on a class-action lawsuit that alleged investors were misled about the company’s business practices and academic performance. K12 agreed to pay $6.75 million to settle the case.
What do you think of the proposal? Do you want to see a charter school operating in Plainfield School District 202?
Related:
- Charter School Controversy: K12 Disputes Reports of Grade Tampering
- Charter School Plan to Go Before Plainfield Board
- Letter: Ask Your School Board to 'Vote No' Against Online Charter School
- K12 Virtual Charter School Under Heavy Fire by Illinois Jobs Activists
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RB
4:49 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Let me try to recap what I just read.
1 - They want 8,000 per student that attend their “ virtual charter”.
2 - Currently the district only receives only 5,734 per student, so every student in this charter school would be taking away more than his or her share of resources.
3 – This company seems has a questionable background. See link to the Nashville-NBC report
4 – Their students’ performance is below average
In every business, virtualization is adopted as a way to improve efficiency and reduce costs. Their proposal is more expensive and it’s not more efficient. Why are we even considering such an absurd proposal?
Let me tell you that I would be all for competition and would welcome a brick and mortal charter school offering quality education at a lower cost than the district but that is not what this company is offering.
Lisa S.
7:32 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
I agree. This type of option might be a good fit for some children with behavioral difficulties or physical disability/illness that makes it hard to get around school on a daily basis. But the quality of the education received concerns me greatly with this company. I also question why it would cost $8000 per child...If PSD202 has brick and mortar schools and teachers- and does it for less.I would think a large company with less individual admin and less physical structure would be able to do it for much less.
TheMadnessOfCrowds
7:51 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
Plainfield cannot let this happen to the district. K12 inc. is not interested in the education the child receives. I like how the article states that K12 inc. is the company pushing for the deal, but when money flows in, it doesn't go to K-12, it goes to the non-profit, and most likely tax exempt partner, Virtual Learning Solutions. K-12s website does not provide any information on, or show any affiliation to Virtual Learning Solutions. Kids aren't receiving a better education from this program, and those stats have been documented. It should also be noted that one of the individuals who helped found K12 Inc. is, Michael Milken. Back in the 1980's, Mr. Milken was in jail for racketeering and securities fraud. He owns a large stake of the company. K12 can charge separately for instructional materials and courses. The company has recruiters to promote K12, and they typically get a commission for enrolling person in the program. They are only concerned about enrolling and not retaining students. This will be a huge burden on the district.
Niel
11:44 pm on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
This is all you need to know: Do you remember Michael Milken, former felon and Junk Bond King of the eighties? He is also co-founder of K-12 Inc., America's largest provider of online education for kindergarten through 12th grade.
Christina
4:02 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
None of this matters, 202 will never willingly give up a single cent to anybody. It would bite into their overly comfortable life styles.
Jax
5:40 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
You wanna see how well charter schools work look into the Job Corps system set up by the US department of Labor they pay a contractor to educate kids. In the mean time they never up keep the grounds or school interior and the US department of Labor does not hold theses companies responsible and the teachers are no where qualified to be called real teachers.. Don't believe me just got to Mills rd in Joliet and see for yourself..Its caklled Joliet Job Corps..
Jax
5:44 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
Reform in Schools and the way they spend money starts with who we vote in statrting with the school board and then to the politicians. They have all robbed the money for entitlement programs wich are freebies for them and folks who find it easier to sit and collect free stuff from state local and federal programs. Illinois had been a democratic state for far to long and its tumbling down hill very fast. The state school system and the over all state was in way better shape when Edgar was governor..Obamacare is gonna make it way worse
For the future
7:37 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
My number one question for districts that actually get this to work is, how can this company take 8k per student get supposed better scores and still make a profit? All while most of the standard school systems that hirer them struggle in both areas funds and scores? Either way their sales pitch isn't sounding the best when it costs more then we get as a district, normal interaction is taken away, and their past history isn't as strong as they sell it as. We need a lot more information, and also the ability to talk to other districts who use this similar to Plainfield and its needs. I see this company is hitting up Oswego in another article and even giving funds to candidates. This is wrong in my opinion. Decisions like this should not be clouded by donations.
For the future
7:42 am on Wednesday, March 20, 2013
As another side note I would like to know if this style of education is the same Chicago is using? If so why did they just have to close two charter schools? Also they just had to implement that all magnet and charter schools have the same standards and equal scores as the standard school system. Isn't that crazy when the Idea of these schools is to get better grades and scores with their teaching styles. They should always held to a hirer standard, if that's what they sell.
Buckgrove
6:43 am on Tuesday, April 16, 2013
Jax- It is true that Illinois was in much better shape when Gov. J Edgar was in office. Remember- he is the one who started on this terrible mess. He signed on to deferring pension payments for the teachers. He, also,said that we need another tax hike.
Mim Rose
11:40 am on Friday, May 24, 2013
The high rankings of suburban schools are directly proportional to the school push-out that occurs of low scoring students. These schools are badly failing the children whose learning styles don't match teaching styles that are often mandated by misguided guidelines. These left-behind children will serve in Iraq lacking other choices.
If you are interested in organizing to demand school choice, please email me at mdepelichy@gmail.com. I have three children in the Naperville 203 district, two of whom are failing one has straight A's. The reason for this is that the school system caters to one and only one style of learning. My children NEED Montessori but it is not allowed as an option in these schools. The No Child Left Behind Act guarantees options for children who can't learn in the schools that are available while it is exceedingly hard to find the correct tools to assess children effectively enough to ascertain their alternative learning needs. I feel this is because there are stipends going to corrupt organizations that want funding--therefore the many possible alternative education options are suppressed. Please email me if you have similar concerns. I am not for simply delegating children who fail in the No Child Left Behind school system to an online alternative--we need REAL school choice. That said, if an online alternative were available, one might hate to say it, but given the limited schooling options we have, it would be preferable in some circumstances.